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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[The negative impact of complexity on MMOs and virtual worlds]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/12/01/the-negative-impact-of-complexity-on-mmos-and-virtual-worlds/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/12/01/the-negative-impact-of-complexity-on-mmos-and-virtual-worlds/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/12/01/the-negative-impact-of-complexity-on-mmos-and-virtual-worlds/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/exploits/" rel="tag">Exploits</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/game-mechanics/" rel="tag">Game mechanics</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/mmo-industry/" rel="tag">MMO industry</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/opinion/" rel="tag">Opinion</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/academic/" rel="tag">Academic</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/virtual-worlds/" rel="tag">Virtual worlds</a></p><a href="http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2008/11/irreparable-com.html"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="1" align="middle" alt="" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2008/11/rubegoldbergimageat425.jpg" /></a><br />The relative complexity of MMOs in comparison with more standard PC and console titles is a major draw for many of us. We like the crafting systems, the economic underpinnings, and many of the other trappings of massively multiplayer online titles. Complexity can be a core strength of a solid MMO title, but at what point does it become a detriment? Sometimes, emergent complexity changes the environment and the rules which govern it in some negative ways. Likewise, too much complexity-by-design can be equally problematic. This is the focus of a recent discussion at <a href="http://terranova.blogs.com">Terra Nova</a> -- "Irreparable Complexity, Game and World" -- kicked off by <a href="http://weblogs.swarthmore.edu/burke/?page_id=81 ">Timothy Burke</a>. <br /><br />Burke writes, <em>"I've found that virtual worlds, massively-multiplayer online games (MMOGs) have provided some great examples of Rube-Goldberg complexity-by-design, and have also demonstrated why this phenomenon can be a source of so much trouble, that you can end up with systems which are painfully indispensable and permanently dysfunctional, beyond the ability of any agent or interest to repair." </em><br /><br />Burke explores this complexity in depth, through analysis of <a href="http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/players/index.vm "><em>Star Wars: Galaxies</em></a> and <a href="http://www.warhammeronline.com"><em>Warhammer Online</em></a>, but also how this plays out in virtual worlds. This leads him to the dilemma of developers wanting to keep their game design opaque enough to players so that systems aren't easily exploited, at the risk of becoming ensnared in broken systems and overly complicated game mechanics -- where even the developers themselves can't figure it all out. Have a look at Timothy Burke's "<a href="http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2008/11/irreparable-com.html">Irreparable Complexity, Game and World</a>" over at Terra Nova for his views on how game designers should handle both emergent complexity and complexity-by-design.<p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/12/01/the-negative-impact-of-complexity-on-mmos-and-virtual-worlds/">The negative impact of complexity on MMOs and virtual worlds</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:00:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href=http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2008/11/irreparable-com.html>Read</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/12/01/the-negative-impact-of-complexity-on-mmos-and-virtual-worlds/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/1377491/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/12/01/the-negative-impact-of-complexity-on-mmos-and-virtual-worlds/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>academic</category><category>complexity</category><category>exploits</category><category>game-design</category><category>game-mechanics</category><category>mmo-industry</category><category>opinion</category><category>star-wars-galaxies</category><category>swg</category><category>terra-nova</category><category>timothy-burke</category><category>virtual-worlds</category><category>war</category><category>warhammer-online</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[James Egan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:00:00 EST</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Terra Nova looks back (and forward) at the Diku legacy]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/30/terra-nova-looks-back-and-forward-at-the-diku-legacy/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/30/terra-nova-looks-back-and-forward-at-the-diku-legacy/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/30/terra-nova-looks-back-and-forward-at-the-diku-legacy/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/game-mechanics/" rel="tag">Game mechanics</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/warhammer-online/" rel="tag">Warhammer Online</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/muds/" rel="tag">MUDs</a></p><div align="center"><a href="http://westkarana.com/index.php/2007/03/09/eq-diku/"><img hspace="4" border="1" vspace="4" alt=""  src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2008/08/ekdiku.jpg" /></a><br /></div>
<a href="http://everquest.station.sony.com"><em>EverQuest</em></a>, <a href="http://www.worldofwarcraft.com"><em>World of Warcraft</em></a>, <a href="http://www.lotro.com"><em>The Lord of the Rings Online</em></a>, <a href="http://www.ageofconan.com"><em>Age of Conan</em></a>, <a href="http://www.warhammeronline.com"><em>Warhammer Online</em></a> and many other MMOs all have one important thing in common. Well, okay; they have a <em>lot</em> of things in common -- like about 85% or more of their gameplay mechanics. But the <em>main</em> thing -- indeed, the reason why they have so much in common -- is that they are all descendants of a kind of text MUD game called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diku">Diku.</a><br /><br />Acknowledging that, virtual worlds blog <a href="http://terranova.blogs.com">Terra Nova</a> published a "<a href="http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2008/08/state-of-the-di.html">State of the Diku</a>" article for the year 2008. The article was written by Timothy Burke. It's mostly a dispassionate look at game design -- serious business. Burke starts out questioning the purpose of "vendor trash" drops (or grey items as they're generally known in many popular contemporary MMOs). Then he analyzes the public quests of <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/warhammer-online"><em>Warhammer Online</em></a>, viewing them as a positive variation on traditional Diku design.<br /><br />If you're into thnking critically about MMO design, it's worth checking out. We take for granted the fact that most of today's MMOs are based on the Diku formula; maybe that means we're clinging to old ideas that don't make a lot of sense in today's world.<p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/30/terra-nova-looks-back-and-forward-at-the-diku-legacy/">Terra Nova looks back (and forward) at the Diku legacy</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:00:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href=http://terranova.blogs.com/terra_nova/2008/08/state-of-the-di.html>Read</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/30/terra-nova-looks-back-and-forward-at-the-diku-legacy/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/1299695/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/30/terra-nova-looks-back-and-forward-at-the-diku-legacy/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>age-of-conan</category><category>design</category><category>diku</category><category>diku-mud</category><category>drops</category><category>grey</category><category>history</category><category>items</category><category>junk</category><category>lord-of-the-rings-online</category><category>mud</category><category>public-quests</category><category>state-of-the-diku</category><category>terra-nova</category><category>theory</category><category>timothy-burke</category><category>vendor-trash</category><category>warhammer-online</category><category>world-of-warcraft</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Samuel Axon]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 12:00:00 EST</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
