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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[The Soapbox: On gold-farming and the grind]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/13/the-soapbox-on-gold-farming-and-the-grind/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/13/the-soapbox-on-gold-farming-and-the-grind/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/13/the-soapbox-on-gold-farming-and-the-grind/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/fantasy/" rel="tag">Fantasy</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/sci-fi/" rel="tag">Sci-fi</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/business-models/" rel="tag">Business models</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/economy/" rel="tag">Economy</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/game-mechanics/" rel="tag">Game mechanics</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/mmo-industry/" rel="tag">MMO industry</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/opinion/" rel="tag">Opinion</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/free-to-play/" rel="tag">Free-to-play</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/the-soapbox/" rel="tag">The Soapbox</a></p><div style="text-align: center;">
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<em>Disclaimer: <a href="http://www.massively.com/category/the-soapbox/">The Soapbox</a> column is entirely the opinion of this week's writer and does not necessarily reflect the views of Massively as a whole. If you're afraid of opinions other than your own, you might want to skip this column.</em><br />
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You're no doubt aware of a certain sci-fi MMORPG that's launching this week. As is the case each time a new major title releases, I'm curious to see how (or if) the developers will deal with the inevitable real-money trade.<br />
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<a href="http://bioware.com">BioWare</a> has been fairly quiet about gold-farming and the steps it may take to combat it, which isn't too surprising given the unglamorous and often controversial subject matter. Few game devs mention their anti-RMT plans prior to launch, but plenty of dev teams complain about RMT after their game has been released. And yet, the usual solutions to black market currency trading are continuously ineffective at stopping it.<p><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/13/the-soapbox-on-gold-farming-and-the-grind/" rel="bookmark">Continue reading <em>The Soapbox: On gold-farming and the grind</em></a></p><p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/13/the-soapbox-on-gold-farming-and-the-grind/">The Soapbox: On gold-farming and the grind</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:00:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/13/the-soapbox-on-gold-farming-and-the-grind/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/20125260/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/12/13/the-soapbox-on-gold-farming-and-the-grind/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>bioware</category><category>eq2</category><category>eqii</category><category>everquest-2</category><category>everquest-ii</category><category>f2p</category><category>fantasy</category><category>featured</category><category>free-to-play</category><category>fun-barrier</category><category>gold-buying</category><category>gold-farming</category><category>gold-selling</category><category>grind</category><category>grinding-leads-to-gold-farming</category><category>opinion</category><category>progress-quest</category><category>progression</category><category>real-money-trade</category><category>richard-garriott</category><category>rmt</category><category>sci-fi</category><category>soapbox</category><category>soapbox-jef-reahard</category><category>star-wars-the-old-republic</category><category>swtor</category><category>the-grind</category><category>the-old-republic</category><category>the-soapbox</category><category>tor</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Jef Reahard]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:00:00 EST</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Anti-Aliased: My first 30 levels with AFK... er... Jade Dynasty pt. 2]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-pt2/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-pt2/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-pt2/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/at-a-glance/" rel="tag">At a glance</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/betas/" rel="tag">Betas</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/fantasy/" rel="tag">Fantasy</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/game-mechanics/" rel="tag">Game mechanics</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/mmo-industry/" rel="tag">MMO industry</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/new-titles/" rel="tag">New titles</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/opinion/" rel="tag">Opinion</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/free-to-play/" rel="tag">Free-to-play</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/anti-aliased/" rel="tag">Anti-Aliased</a></p><div align="center"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/anti-aliased"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><img hspace="4" border="1" vspace="4" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2009/06/jdaliased_580_2.jpg" alt="" /></span></a><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span></div>
<span style="font-weight: bold;">So that's why it's called <span style="font-style: italic;">AFK Dynasty</span>...</span><br /><br />When I finally found a new area to level in as my awesome level 30 self, I actually found that the quests had surprisingly become more tedious. Now it was kill 30 of a monster, or collect 10 to 15 of an item that would only drop once every 7 monsters. This is when I began to make crazy use of the invigorate feature, where I'd press the "kill stuff" button and my character would go off killing whatever she pleased.<br /><br />Was I worried about dying? Pfft, no! Using my wonderous cash shop gold I got a health and mana battery! These two items carried 700,000 HP and 700,000 SP inside of them, and would use enough of their charges to bring my character back up to full HP and SP when I dropped below 10% in a category. I had absolutely nothing to fear now all because my character was basically on a potion IV drip. Everything in my path was easily slaughtered, and I didn't have to be present for any of it.<br /><br />It scared me.<br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Is this what an MMO is?</span><br /><br />Other games try to hide it with cutscenes, story, diversions, and other tactics. <span style="font-style: italic;">Jade Dynasty</span> is the full, unabashed version of what a MMO is -- grindy grindy grind. But when the game becomes so advanced that it can play itself, then I need to ask an important question What the heck is the point?<br /><br />
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A better designer than I once said, "Making video games for a living comes down to one cold, hard truth -- you're making pushing buttons fun. Your job is making an extremely mundane task into an experience with impact." The fact that a game like <span style="font-style: italic;">Jade Dynasty</span> exists is a scary proposition for our industry as a whole. It means we're walking the path of making timesinks, not games. It's like one of those old addages -- "How can we have fun playing a game when we're not playing the game?"<br /> <br /> I sound like a broken record, but this is a very strong reason why I preach about the necessity of storyline and impact in a game. While gameplay is very, very important, any repetitive activity will become boring unless it is spiced up with enough change to keep it engaging. We use to have a strong grasp of making worlds with engaging content. That grasp, however, has diminished since the dawn of the <a href="http://www.everquest.com/" style="font-style: italic;">EverQuest</a> and the rise of "kill X to level" quests.<br /> <br /> How do I know that we've lost our path regarding storyline? Well because Bioware is touting storyline as a new feature in <a href="http://www.swtor.com/" style="font-style: italic;">The Old Republic</a>. When we've gotten to the point that storyline is a "on-the-box" feature for a game, then we've done something horribly wrong in our designing.<br /> <br /> Our original designs focused on the adventure in the world, not the quick grind sessions to max level and the repetition of raids. I wish we could re-find those designs.<br /><br />My final note to you all for this week: if you want to play a game of numbers without playing the game, I have a recommendation for you. It's a "game" that runs on anyone's computer thanks to low graphical requirements and provides all of the same action and features that <span style="font-style: italic;">Jade Dynasty</span> provides. It's called <a href="http://www.progressquest.com/" style="font-style: italic;">Progress Quest</a>, it's equivolent to <span style="font-style: italic;">Jade Dynasty</span>, and it's 100% free. Try it, you'll love it.<br /><em><br /></em> <hr /><img hspace="4" border="1" align="left" vspace="4" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2008/04/colinswoop.jpg" alt="" /> <em>Colin Brennan is the weekly writer of Anti-Aliased who is totally level 45 in Jade Dynasty by only playing it for an hour. When he's not writing here for Massively, he's rambling on his personal blog, <a href="http://experiencecurve.wordpress.com/">The Experience Curve</a>. If you want to message him, send him an e-mail at colin.brennan AT weblogsinc DOT com. You can also follow him on Twitter through <a href="http://twitter.com/massively">Massively</a>, or through his <a href="http://twitter.com/sera_brennan">personal feed</a>.</em><p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-pt2/">Anti-Aliased: My first 30 levels with AFK... er... Jade Dynasty pt. 2</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:00:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-pt2/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/19065793/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-pt2/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>afk</category><category>afk-dynasty</category><category>afk-gaming</category><category>botting</category><category>content</category><category>engaging</category><category>glider</category><category>grind</category><category>grinding</category><category>invigorate</category><category>jade-dynasty</category><category>level-grind</category><category>perfect-world</category><category>perfect-world-entertainment</category><category>progress-quest</category><category>storyline</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Seraphina Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:00:00 EST</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Anti-Aliased: My first 30 levels with AFK... er... Jade Dynasty]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-dynasty/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-dynasty/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-dynasty/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/at-a-glance/" rel="tag">At a glance</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/betas/" rel="tag">Betas</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/fantasy/" rel="tag">Fantasy</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/game-mechanics/" rel="tag">Game mechanics</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/mmo-industry/" rel="tag">MMO industry</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/new-titles/" rel="tag">New titles</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/opinion/" rel="tag">Opinion</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/free-to-play/" rel="tag">Free-to-play</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/anti-aliased/" rel="tag">Anti-Aliased</a></p><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/anti-aliased"><img hspace="4" border="1" vspace="4" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2009/06/jdlogo580_2.jpg" alt="" /></a><br /></div>
So I learned a few things since last week. One, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/05/anti-aliased-final-fantasy-xiv-is-a-good-good-thing/">writing an opinion column</a> on how much I like <a href="http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com"><em>Final Fantasy XIV</em></a> can push people into a frothing internet rage, and two, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/05/anti-aliased-final-fantasy-xiv-is-a-good-good-thing-pt-2/#comments">people apparently forgot that I write an opinion column</a>.<br /><br />Therefore, because my column may induce emotional states similar to some drugs, I've been asked by the FDA to include a legible warning prior to each of my column topics.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.fda.gov/">The FDA</a> would like me to tell you that reading <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/anti-aliased">Anti-Aliased</a> can, in rare cases, cause extreme emotional upset, eye strain, monitor punching syndrome, a feeling of discomfort around Mithra, itchyness, nausea, resurrection sickness, paralysis of the eyelids, and carpal tunnel syndrome. You should stop reading Anti-Aliased and consult with a <a href="http://www.worldofwarcraft.com"><em>World of Warcraft</em></a> priest should you develop any one of these symptoms while reading.<br /><br />With that legalese out of the way, let's talk about <a href="http://jd.perfectworld.com"><em>Jade Dynasty</em></a> -- dubbed by the illustrious <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/bloggers/james-egan">James Egan</a> as <span style="font-style: italic;">AFK Dynasty</span> as it's the one MMO where you pay microtransactions to not play it. Yes, you heard me, it's more beneficial to not play <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/tag/jade-dynasty"><em>Jade Dynasty</em></a> than it is to play <em>Jade Dynasty</em>. <em>EVE</em> players, there is finally a game that puts your skill training system to shame.<p><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-dynasty/" rel="bookmark">Continue reading <em>Anti-Aliased: My first 30 levels with AFK... er... Jade Dynasty</em></a></p><p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-dynasty/">Anti-Aliased: My first 30 levels with AFK... er... Jade Dynasty</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:00:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-dynasty/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/19059807/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/anti-aliased-my-first-30-levels-with-afk-er-jade-dynasty/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>afk-dynasty</category><category>afk-gaming</category><category>anti-aliased</category><category>botting</category><category>content</category><category>engaging-content</category><category>featured</category><category>glider</category><category>grind</category><category>grinding</category><category>jade-dyansty</category><category>joystiqfeatures</category><category>level-grind</category><category>perfect-world</category><category>perfect-world-entertainment</category><category>progress-quest</category><category>storyline</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Seraphina Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:00:00 EST</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Confronting the grind (and finding it in ourselves)]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2007/11/29/confronting-the-grind-and-finding-it-in-ourselves/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2007/11/29/confronting-the-grind-and-finding-it-in-ourselves/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2007/11/29/confronting-the-grind-and-finding-it-in-ourselves/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/game-mechanics/" rel="tag">Game mechanics</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/mmo-industry/" rel="tag">MMO industry</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/pve/" rel="tag">PvE</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/opinion/" rel="tag">Opinion</a></p><a href="http://www.play-girlz.com/how-i-came-to-hate-the-grind/"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="1" align="right" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2007/11/grind.jpg"  alt="" /></a>Ryan Shwayder pointed us to <a href="http://www.nerfbat.com/2007/11/27/mmo-rant-12-the-grind/">this fun little rant he posted</a> on that most nefarious of MMO subjects: "the grind."  Yes, the grind, that mythical beast that lies at the bottom of every MMO, slowly sucking the fun out of it.  Wait, "mythical"?  That's right-- Shwayder says that there is no grinding in MMOs.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grind_(gaming)" aiotitle="That constant, repetitive killing" aiotarget="false">That constant, repetitive killing</a> that you do to push your character to higher equipment and levels?  That, my friend, is what you bought the game for.<br /><br />An interesting point, and in a sense, he's right-- the only RPG I've ever played without a little repetitive grinding is actually <a href="http://www.progressquest.com/"><em>Progress Quest</em></a> (and if you're in on the joke, you know you don't actually play that game at all).  It is true that "the grind" only rears its ugly head not when players are signed in and playing the game, but when they're out of game, and looking at all the stuff they need to do to wield that +5 sword of boar slaying.  In a good game, actually grinding is actually fun.<br /><br />Then again, we are only human, and there is so much boar killing you can do before you decide to move on.  And since playtime is more and more at a premium, there's nothing wrong with developers making something that previous required 100 boars killed to require only 50, and create a whole other reward for those other 50 boars.  But Ryan's also right in saying that the grind is mostly in our heads-- if we got everything we wanted right away, there'd be no reason to play the game.  "Grinding" to the highest levels is what playing most MMOs is all about.<p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2007/11/29/confronting-the-grind-and-finding-it-in-ourselves/">Confronting the grind (and finding it in ourselves)</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:00:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href=http://www.nerfbat.com/2007/11/27/mmo-rant-12-the-grind/>Read</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2007/11/29/confronting-the-grind-and-finding-it-in-ourselves/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/1050491/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2007/11/29/confronting-the-grind-and-finding-it-in-ourselves/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>boar-killing</category><category>grind</category><category>grinding</category><category>mmos</category><category>progress-quest</category><category>ryan-shwayder</category><category>the-grind</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Schramm]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:00:00 EST</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
