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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[The Daily Grind: Do you think there's too much group mentality in MMO discussion?]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/02/05/the-daily-grind-do-you-think-theres-too-much-group-mentality-i/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/02/05/the-daily-grind-do-you-think-theres-too-much-group-mentality-i/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/02/05/the-daily-grind-do-you-think-theres-too-much-group-mentality-i/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/culture/" rel="tag">Culture</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/mmo-industry/" rel="tag">MMO industry</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/opinion/" rel="tag">Opinion</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/the-daily-grind/" rel="tag">The Daily Grind</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/misc/" rel="tag">Miscellaneous</a></p><div style="text-align: center;">
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When it comes to MMO design, people tend toward certain viewpoints. Some players think that immersion requires an open world, open PvP, and open targets; others think it just requires an interesting story and a player willing to invest. There are people who think that cash shops are a short step toward buying your way through content, and there are those who think cash shops are a great way to get some more gumballs for a game you like. In the broadest terms, there's a sense of an old guard and a new guard, but there's a lot of overlap and a lot that depends on personal viewpoints.<br />
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In some ways, this can be helpful for discussion -- knowing that someone really prefers old sandbox games like <em><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/Ultima-Online/">Ultima Online</a></em> means that you know right off said person won't enjoy <em><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/DC-Universe-Online/">DC Universe Online</a></em>, for instance. But it also means that we're far more likely to ignore the opinions of others because they dislike certain mechanics, even if they raise valid points. So do you think there's too much of a focus on "old guard" vs. "new guard" when talking about design?<br />
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<img align="left" alt="" border="0" hspace="0" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.massively.com/media/2010/09/coffee.jpg" style="padding-right: 10px;" vspace="0" /><em>Every morning, the Massively bloggers probe the minds of their readers with deep, thought-provoking questions about that most serious of topics: massively online gaming. We crave your opinions, so grab your caffeinated beverage of choice and chime in on today's <a href="http://www.massively.com/category/the-daily-grind/">Daily Grind</a>!</em><p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/02/05/the-daily-grind-do-you-think-theres-too-much-group-mentality-i/">The Daily Grind: Do you think there's too much group mentality in MMO discussion?</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Sun, 05 Feb 2012 08:00:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/02/05/the-daily-grind-do-you-think-theres-too-much-group-mentality-i/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/20163417/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/02/05/the-daily-grind-do-you-think-theres-too-much-group-mentality-i/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>culture</category><category>design</category><category>design-points</category><category>discussion</category><category>discussion-topics</category><category>meta-discussion</category><category>new-guard</category><category>old-guard</category><category>opinion</category><category>tdg</category><category>the-daily-grind</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eliot Lefebvre]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 08:00:00 EST</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[EVE 'Blog Banter' discusses Walking in Stations expansion]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/11/02/eve-blog-banter-discusses-walking-in-stations-expansion/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/11/02/eve-blog-banter-discusses-walking-in-stations-expansion/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/11/02/eve-blog-banter-discusses-walking-in-stations-expansion/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/sci-fi/" rel="tag">Sci-fi</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/eve-online/" rel="tag">EVE Online</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/expansions/" rel="tag">Expansions</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/forums/" rel="tag">Forums</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/game-mechanics/" rel="tag">Game mechanics</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/mmo-industry/" rel="tag">MMO industry</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/opinion/" rel="tag">Opinion</a></p><a href="http://www.crazykinux.com/2008/10/eve-blog-banter-1-exotic-dancers.html"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="1" align="middle" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2008/11/stationimagefromcksblog425.jpg" alt="" /></a><br />While the official <a href="http://www.eve-online.com"><em>EVE Online</em></a> forums have always been very active, there are other options out there. For those who like how busy the official forums are, but not the rules that govern it, there's <a href="http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/">Scrapheap Challenge</a>. SH-C is a forum which is chiefly dedicated to discussing <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/eve-online"><em>EVE Online</em></a>, but not moderated by <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/tag/ccp-games">CCP Games</a> themselves. Recent months, however, have seen a large number of <em>EVE</em> players striking out on their own, with their own blogs that focus on a particular aspect of the game linked to that blogger's playstyle. Industry, finance, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/tag/piracy">piracy</a>, 0.0 alliance warfare, and now even <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/tag/boosters">boosters</a> (drugs) are being written about on a daily basis.<br /><br />While over 100 of these blogs are out there, the more prolific among them have joined under the banner of CrazyKinux's <a href="http://www.crazykinux.com/2008/06/eve-online-blog-pack.html">Blog Pack</a>. By all accounts, it's been a successful community effort by <em>EVE</em> players, and now CrazyKinux is adding another dimension to the Blog Pack: conversation topics that are collectively tackled by the various bloggers, called "Blog Banter." The <a href="http://www.crazykinux.com/2008/10/eve-blog-banter-1-exotic-dancers.html">first Blog Banter got underway</a> this past week, and the first issue up for discussion has been a timely one: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/tag/walking-in-stations"><em>EVE's</em> <em>Walking in Stations</em> expansion</a>, formerly known as <em>Ambulation</em>, which <a href="http://www.eve-online.com/fanfest/2008/ ">Fanfest attendees</a> will get to try out firsthand in just a few more days. The question itself was <a href="http://psychediver.blogspot.com/">proposed by PsycheDiver</a>, who asked, <em>"Ambulation: What are your hopes for your avatar and new functionality of stations?"</em><p><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/11/02/eve-blog-banter-discusses-walking-in-stations-expansion/" rel="bookmark">Continue reading <em>EVE 'Blog Banter' discusses Walking in Stations expansion</em></a></p><p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/11/02/eve-blog-banter-discusses-walking-in-stations-expansion/">EVE 'Blog Banter' discusses Walking in Stations expansion</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:10:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href=http://www.crazykinux.com/2008/10/eve-blog-banter-1-exotic-dancers.html>Read</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/11/02/eve-blog-banter-discusses-walking-in-stations-expansion/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/1359899/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/11/02/eve-blog-banter-discusses-walking-in-stations-expansion/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>alliances</category><category>ambulation</category><category>blog-banter</category><category>boosters</category><category>ccp</category><category>ccp-games</category><category>community</category><category>crazykinux</category><category>discussion</category><category>discussion-topics</category><category>eve</category><category>eve-blog-pack</category><category>eve-online</category><category>expansions</category><category>finance</category><category>forums</category><category>industry</category><category>piracy</category><category>psychediver</category><category>sci-fi</category><category>scrapheap-challenge</category><category>walking-in-stations</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[James Egan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 16:10:00 EST</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
