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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[GDC09: Spending time with the cruise director of Azeroth pt. 2]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth-pt-2/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth-pt-2/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth-pt-2/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/world-of-warcraft/" rel="tag">World of Warcraft</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/fantasy/" rel="tag">Fantasy</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/game-mechanics/" rel="tag">Game mechanics</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/mmo-industry/" rel="tag">MMO industry</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/quests/" rel="tag">Quests</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/pve/" rel="tag">PvE</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/opinion/" rel="tag">Opinion</a></p><div align="center"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/tag/gdc-2009"><span style="font-weight: bold;"><img hspace="4" border="1" vspace="4" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2009/04/gdcquestmistakes.jpg"  alt="" /></span></a><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;"></span></div>
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Mistakes of World of Warcraft</span><br /> <br /> Kaplan was quick to note that <span style="font-style: italic;">Warcraft</span> was far from perfect, and he wanted to highlight some of his own mistakes inside of the design.<br /> <br /> The first mistake was the idea of the "Christmas tree effect," otherwise known as having so many quests in a quest hub that the minimap lights up with exclamation points like a Christmas tree.  While players enjoy this, Kaplan wanted to say that the developer loses call control over the player at these points, as the player will not read any quest text in their clicking frenzy.  There's no control over what quest leads into what or which order the player will do the quests in.<br /> <br /> The second was the internet adage of "too long, didn't read."  Quest designers don't need to write a book to get their point across with the quests.  He brought up that video games had a type of "medium envy," where sometimes they get too preachy with their topics.  Games should be fun first, story second.<br /> <br /> Mystery also falls in this category.  The story can provide mystery, but the quest log should never have any mystery to it.  The quest log should always point where to go and what to do, but the overall story of those quests may provide some solution to some mystery.<br /> <br /> Also avoid poorly placed quest chains, like the <a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Princess_Trapped">Chains of Myzrael</a> questline in Arathi Highlands.  The Myzrael line was hard to find, ended up spanning 14 levels, and ended with killing an elite mob that was level 44.  This quest line was a "brick wall" according to Kaplan, because most players never stuck with it.<br /> <br /> It's good to have quest chains that span content, but quest chains like this break down trust the player has with the developer.  When the player runs into a chain that he can't finish with a monster he can't kill, the player loses trust in the developer's sense of guiding them to fun.<br /> <br /> He also emphasized to avoid inserting "gimmick quests."  His example here was part of <a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/The_Oculus">the Oculus</a> dungeon where players ride on dragons.  These types of quests center around doing something the client may not be able to properly handle.  <span style="font-style: italic;">Warcraft</span> was not designed to accommodate vehicles.  When developers resort to putting in parts of the game that center around a gimmick, it can detract from the fun of the rest of the game.<br /> <br /> <span style="font-weight: bold;">The horror of collection quests</span><br /> <br /> Kaplan's speech ended with an analysis of why people hate collection quests so much, and a few tips on how to make collection quests into a better experience.<br /> <br /> His problems with the quests stemmed from three areas -- dense creature population, too few of a creature to kill, and having a wide variety of items required for the quest.  Having a dense creature population can put off people, especially when there's a lack of the monster required for the quest.  If someone has to kill four lions for every one raptor required for the quest, then there's a problem.<br /> <br /> His other point was that collection quests shouldn't require an insane amount of items.  To everyone's amusement, he brought up the <a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:The_Green_Hills_of_Stranglethorn">Green Hills of Stranglethorn</a> quest chain (a chain he wrote) as the exact thing a designer should never do.  Collection quests should be an easily obtainable number of items, and not such a long grind fest with the hope that your required item might drop.<br /> <br /> Lastly, never have the player question why they're collecting the item required -- it should be clear from the onset.  Kaplan brought up the infamous gnoll paw collecting quests, in which gnolls may or may not drop paws upon death, where obviously a gnoll has four paws and not a number between 0 and 1 (which everyone applauded at loudly).  Quests should make sense and not become a gimmick in their own right.  This causes the player to once again, lose trust.<br /> <br /> Most of these points that Kaplan has brought up pertain to <span style="font-style: italic;">Warcraft</span>, but can easily be applied to any game on the market.  With all of this in mind, perhaps we'll get to see some better design in our MMOs from other developers, now that we're all on the same page... of the Green Hills of Stranglethorn.<p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth-pt-2/">GDC09: Spending time with the cruise director of Azeroth pt. 2</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:00:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth-pt-2/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/1505235/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth-pt-2/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>azeroth</category><category>blizzard</category><category>christmas-tree</category><category>collection-quests</category><category>cruise-director-of-azeroth</category><category>directed-gameplay</category><category>exclamation-points</category><category>gdc-2009</category><category>green-hills-of-stranglethorn</category><category>interface-design</category><category>jeff-kaplan</category><category>lead-game-designer</category><category>mistakes</category><category>panel</category><category>quest-design</category><category>quest-helper</category><category>questing</category><category>quests</category><category>user-interface</category><category>world-of-warcraft</category><category>wow</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Seraphina Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:00:00 EST</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[GDC09: Spending time with the cruise director of Azeroth]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/world-of-warcraft/" rel="tag">World of Warcraft</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/fantasy/" rel="tag">Fantasy</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/game-mechanics/" rel="tag">Game mechanics</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/mmo-industry/" rel="tag">MMO industry</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/quests/" rel="tag">Quests</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/pve/" rel="tag">PvE</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/opinion/" rel="tag">Opinion</a></p><div style="text-align: center;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/tag/gdc-2009"><img hspace="4" border="1" vspace="4" alt="" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2009/04/jeffkaplangdc09.jpg" /></a><br /></div>
At <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/tag/gdc-2009">GDC09</a>, we got to talk with many people and listened to a variety of panels on all aspects of game design. But there was little doubt as to which panel attracted loads of attention -- the Jeff Kaplan panel on quest design in <a href="http://www.worldofwarcraft.com"><span style="font-style: italic;">World of Warcraft</span></a>.<br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Warcraft</span> has come extremely far in terms of their UI design and quest implementation since the game launched back in 2004. Just between 2007 and 2009, Kaplan revealed that over 8,570,222,436 quests have been completed, while the daily average was 16,641,409. With those numbers in place, it's safe to say that <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/world-of-warcraft"><span style="font-style: italic;">World of Warcraft</span></a> players are driven by their questing.<br /><br />Kaplan's panel revealed a few tricks of the trade, as well as his beliefs regarding questing, so without further adieu let's get into the meat of his panel.<br /><br /><div class="postgallery"><p><strong>Gallery: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/photos/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth-1/">GDC09: Spending time with the cruise director of Azeroth</a></strong></p><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/photos/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth-1/#1466124"><img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.massively.com/media/2009/04/kaplan20091_thumbnail.jpg" alt="" title="" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/photos/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth-1/#1466125"><img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.massively.com/media/2009/04/kaplan20092_thumbnail.jpg" alt="" title="" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/photos/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth-1/#1466126"><img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.massively.com/media/2009/04/kaplan20093_thumbnail.jpg" alt="" title="" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/photos/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth-1/#1466127"><img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.massively.com/media/2009/04/kaplan20094_thumbnail.jpg" alt="" title="" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/photos/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth-1/#1466138"><img src="http://www.blogcdn.com/www.massively.com/media/2009/04/kaplan20096_thumbnail.jpg" alt="" title="" /></a></div><p><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth/" rel="bookmark">Continue reading <em>GDC09: Spending time with the cruise director of Azeroth</em></a></p><p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth/">GDC09: Spending time with the cruise director of Azeroth</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:00:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/1504163/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/04/01/gdc09-spending-time-with-the-cruise-director-of-azeroth/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>azeroth</category><category>blizzard</category><category>collection-quests</category><category>cruise-director-of-azeroth</category><category>directed-gameplay</category><category>exclamation-points</category><category>featured</category><category>game-design</category><category>game-developers-conference</category><category>gdc-2009</category><category>gimmicks</category><category>green-hills-of-stranglethorn</category><category>interface-design</category><category>jeff-kaplan</category><category>joystiqfeatures</category><category>lead-game-designer</category><category>panel</category><category>quest-design</category><category>quest-helper</category><category>questing</category><category>quests</category><category>world-of-warcraft</category><category>wow</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Seraphina Brennan]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:00:00 EST</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
