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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[Cryptic used NCsoft forums for beta recruiting, not really sorry though [Updated]]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/03/19/cryptic-used-ncsoft-forums-for-beta-recruiting-not-really-sorry/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/03/19/cryptic-used-ncsoft-forums-for-beta-recruiting-not-really-sorry/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/03/19/cryptic-used-ncsoft-forums-for-beta-recruiting-not-really-sorry/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/super-hero/" rel="tag">Super-hero</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/city-of-heroes/" rel="tag">City of Heroes</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/new-titles/" rel="tag">New titles</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/news-items/" rel="tag">News items</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/champions-online/" rel="tag">Champions Online</a></p><div align="center"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/champions-online/"><img hspace="4" vspace="4" border="1" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2009/03/24ujhnrst5aws.jpg" alt="" /></a><br /><span style="float: right; margin-left: 10px; margin-top: 7px;"> <script> var digg_url = 'http://digg.com/gaming_news/Cryptic_uses_NCSoft_forums_for_underhanded_marketing_tactics'; </script> <script src="http://digg.com/api/diggthis.js"></script></span></div>
So some new developments have been made concerning <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/03/18/rumor-cryptic-using-city-of-heroes-for-champions-beta-recruitme/">allegations that Cryptic Studios was using</a> the <em><a href="http://www.coh.com">City of Heroes</a></em> forums for <em><a href="http://www.champions-online.com">Champions Online</a></em> beta recruitment.<br /><br />Massively commenter PunkRockDiva has pointed us to <a href="http://forums.champions-online.com/showthread.php?p=380023">a forum post by Cryptic associate community relations manger IronAngel</a>, who relayed a message from his boss, Ivan Sulic. Within that message Ivan confirmed the rumor, saying there was no ill intent in what happened. He then explained why it happened -- that community, PR and marketing are in the middle of restructuring. <em>"Shills, poaching, bullshotting... No chance, man. We make good games and we hope people will play them. Best anyone can do, right?"</em> Was how Mr. Sulic concluded his message.<br /> <br />If the name Ivan Sulic sounds familiar, you may remember him as the <em><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/Hellgate-London/">Hellgate: London</a></em> community manager telling players concerned about the game's lack of a LAN mode, <a href="http://www.hellgateguru.com/forum/showpost.php?s=7972ea787d4f44a4c19e275086907555&amp;p=76662&amp;postcount=1">"Who the fuck cares?"</a> Well, we're pretty sure a lot of people care nowadays, Mr. Sulic. This was all dug up by Scott Jennings, <a href="http://www.brokentoys.org/2009/03/19/cryptic-marcom-malreported-verify-ungood-rectify-candygive/">who posted his opinion of the whole matter</a> on his website, Broken Toys.<br /><br />As Scott points out, it's not an apology if you make light of the matter and pretend it's not a big deal. As people who love the MMO genre, this is not the sort of behavior we want the industry to feel is acceptable. And as such, when a developer has upcoming titles we very much want to play -- like <em><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/Champions-Online/">Champions Online</a></em> and <em><a href="http://www.startrekonline.com">Star Trek Online</a></em> -- it evaporates our desire to support them.<p><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/03/19/cryptic-used-ncsoft-forums-for-beta-recruiting-not-really-sorry/" rel="bookmark">Continue reading <em>Cryptic used NCsoft forums for beta recruiting, not really sorry though [Updated]</em></a></p><p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/03/19/cryptic-used-ncsoft-forums-for-beta-recruiting-not-really-sorry/">Cryptic used NCsoft forums for beta recruiting, not really sorry though [Updated]</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:30:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/03/19/cryptic-used-ncsoft-forums-for-beta-recruiting-not-really-sorry/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/1493264/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/03/19/cryptic-used-ncsoft-forums-for-beta-recruiting-not-really-sorry/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>beta</category><category>breaking</category><category>broken-toys</category><category>champions</category><category>champions-online</category><category>city-of-heroes</category><category>coh</category><category>cryptic</category><category>cryptic-studios</category><category>f13</category><category>ironangel</category><category>ivan-sulric</category><category>ncsoft</category><category>scott-jennings</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Kyle Horner]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:30:00 EST</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Broken Toys: Broken models. Start thinking differently, says Lum]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/26/broken-toys-broken-models-start-thinking-differently-says-lum/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/26/broken-toys-broken-models-start-thinking-differently-says-lum/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/26/broken-toys-broken-models-start-thinking-differently-says-lum/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/business-models/" rel="tag">Business models</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/mmo-industry/" rel="tag">MMO industry</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/news-items/" rel="tag">News items</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/opinion/" rel="tag">Opinion</a></p><div align="center"><img hspace="4" vspace="4" border="1" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2008/08/tan-broken-toy-425.jpg" alt="" /></div>
<p>Scott Jennings, rather better known as <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/tag/lum-the-mad">Lum the Mad</a>, made quite a splash recently when Wagner James Au at GigaOm published a piece called <em><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/24/why-the-subscription-based-business-model-is-broken/">Why The MMORPG Subscription-Based Business Model Is Broken</a></em>. Well, Jennings didn't exactly mean that, and he didn't exactly <em>not</em> mean that. Heck, really, the issue is a fairly complex one and <a href="http://brokentoys.org/2008/08/25/broken-business-models-or-not/">Jennings takes some pains to clear up what he was talking about</a> in more than nine words, and adds more than a little value besides.</p>
<p>Certainly, 15 dollars per month by twelve months with multiple subscriptions <em>seriously</em> eats into your annual games budget, even though a single subscription is often quite affordable in and of itself.</p>
<p>Jennings acknowledges, though, that subscription-based MMOGs can be <em>fun</em>, and that they can rake in the big bucks as well. That's not really the broken part. To get your fledgling MMOG to release and maybe get a piece of that money pie, it's actually <em>irresponsible</em> to innovate under current publishing models.</p><p><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/26/broken-toys-broken-models-start-thinking-differently-says-lum/" rel="bookmark">Continue reading <em>Broken Toys: Broken models. Start thinking differently, says Lum</em></a></p><p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/26/broken-toys-broken-models-start-thinking-differently-says-lum/">Broken Toys: Broken models. Start thinking differently, says Lum</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:00:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href=http://brokentoys.org/2008/08/25/broken-business-models-or-not/>Read</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/26/broken-toys-broken-models-start-thinking-differently-says-lum/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/1295728/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/08/26/broken-toys-broken-models-start-thinking-differently-says-lum/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>broken-toys</category><category>business-models</category><category>lum-the-mad</category><category>mmo-industry</category><category>opinion</category><category>scott-jennings</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tateru Nino]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:00:00 EST</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[IGE founders settlement in doubt, Judge asks WTF]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/24/ige-founders-settlement-in-doubt-judge-asks-wtf/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/24/ige-founders-settlement-in-doubt-judge-asks-wtf/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/24/ige-founders-settlement-in-doubt-judge-asks-wtf/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/events-real-world/" rel="tag">Events, real-world</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/news-items/" rel="tag">News items</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/legal/" rel="tag">Legal</a></p><div align="center"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="1" alt="" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2008/04/real-debonneville-pierce.jpg" /></div>
<p>District Court Judge Manuel Real has ordered IGE's Debonneville and Pierce to a status conference at 10AM US Pacific time tomorrow morning (Friday, 25 April). As you may recall, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/10/ige-founders-settle-their-legal-dispute/">Debonneville and Pierce were settling and had until 14 April to finalize that</a>.</p>
<p>Well, apparently it hasn't been settled and Judge Real wants to know what the heck is up with that, as nothing has been filed by the due-date, though both parties said that they had agreed on all the essentials.</p><p><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/24/ige-founders-settlement-in-doubt-judge-asks-wtf/" rel="bookmark">Continue reading <em>IGE founders settlement in doubt, Judge asks WTF</em></a></p><p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/24/ige-founders-settlement-in-doubt-judge-asks-wtf/">IGE founders settlement in doubt, Judge asks WTF</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:30:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/24/ige-founders-settlement-in-doubt-judge-asks-wtf/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/1177192/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/24/ige-founders-settlement-in-doubt-judge-asks-wtf/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>alan-debonneville</category><category>brock-pierce</category><category>broken-toys</category><category>debonneville-vs-pierce</category><category>gold-farming</category><category>ige</category><category>legal</category><category>manuel-real</category><category>rmt</category><category>virtually-blind</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tateru Nino]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:30:00 EST</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
