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<generator>Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/</generator><item><title><![CDATA[The Daily Grind: Is there a place for diplomacy in an MMO?]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/06/the-daily-grind-is-there-a-place-for-diplomacy-in-an-mmo/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/06/the-daily-grind-is-there-a-place-for-diplomacy-in-an-mmo/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/06/the-daily-grind-is-there-a-place-for-diplomacy-in-an-mmo/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/real-life/" rel="tag">Real life</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/culture/" rel="tag">Culture</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/game-mechanics/" rel="tag">Game mechanics</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/opinion/" rel="tag">Opinion</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/the-daily-grind/" rel="tag">The Daily Grind</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/politics/" rel="tag">Politics</a></p><a href="http://echosphere.net/star_trek_insp/insp_diplomacy.jpg" style=""><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="1" align="right" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2008/04/diplomacyhahatrek.jpg" alt="" /></a>'Violence is the first refuge of the incompetent', wrote <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_asimov">Isaac Asimov</a>, and to a certain extent, that's true. But in an industry that caters to these primal impulses -- and thriving off of them, as well -- is there room for the non-violent path? Certainly, the violent response is more fun than talking it out, at least in an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urge_Overkill">urge overkill</a> kind of way, but surely that's just a matter of implementation.<br /><br />If we truly want to simulate any sort of real-life experience in our games, the full range of social interactions ought to have a place, including politics. And it's one thing to try to reason with an AI, but if you can create a lasting peace with another human player, you have something to be proud of. But is it necessary, or would diplomacy in a combat-oriented game merely detract from the experience?<p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/06/the-daily-grind-is-there-a-place-for-diplomacy-in-an-mmo/">The Daily Grind: Is there a place for diplomacy in an MMO?</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Sun, 06 Apr 2008 08:00:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/06/the-daily-grind-is-there-a-place-for-diplomacy-in-an-mmo/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/1156309/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/04/06/the-daily-grind-is-there-a-place-for-diplomacy-in-an-mmo/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>diplomacy</category><category>isaac-asimov</category><category>politics</category><category>social-interaction</category><category>tdg</category><category>the-daily-grind</category><category>urge-overkill</category><category>violence</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Akela Talamasca]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 08:00:00 EST</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Sci-fi MMO, you're my only hope...]]></title><link>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/01/22/sci-fi-mmo-youre-my-only-hope/</link><guid isPermaLink="true">http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/01/22/sci-fi-mmo-youre-my-only-hope/</guid><comments>http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/01/22/sci-fi-mmo-youre-my-only-hope/#comments</comments><description><![CDATA[<p>Filed under: <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/fantasy/" rel="tag">Fantasy</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/sci-fi/" rel="tag">Sci-fi</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/culture/" rel="tag">Culture</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/mmo-industry/" rel="tag">MMO industry</a>, <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/category/opinion/" rel="tag">Opinion</a></p><div align="center"><img vspace="4" hspace="4" border="1" src="http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2008/01/onlyhope.jpg" alt="" /><br /></div>
<a href="http://tagn.wordpress.com/">The Ancient Gaming Noob</a> wrote a fascinating article about why sci-fi MMOs haven't flourished. It's certainly not a new topic, but the Noob backs his argument up with credible facts and a strict analytical comparison (as opposed to the boisterous blatherings of the typical forum troll) that prove his point.<br /><br />In <em><a href="http://tagn.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/is-there-hope-for-a-science-fiction-mmorpg/">Is there hope for a science fiction MMORGP?</a></em>, the Noob posits that fantasy MMORPGs came about (and became more popular) due to a series of environmental factors that were present for the fantasy genre, but not for sci-fi. He compares four major factors: literature, table top RPGs, computer RPGs, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUD">MUDs</a> (aka <font size="-1">Multi-User Dungeons)</font>. The body of historical fantasy literature provides the major ground work for the other three categories. While "<a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_rings">The Lord of the Rings</a>" might pop into your head first, <font size="-1">Tolkien's great novels were not the beginning of the fantasy genre. As illustrated by the Noob, </font>much older works such as Sir Walter Scott's "<a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivanhoe">Ivanhoe</a>," and Sir Thomas Malory's "<a target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morte_D%27Arthur">Le Morte d'Arthur</a>" existed. But the trump card? The 11th century <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beowulf">Beowulf</a> is the oldest surviving epic poem written in the English language. It's a fantasy story. The entire fantasy genre has been ingrained into our collective human psyche for centuries.<br /><br />And what does science fiction have? Uh, not much. At least not compared to those legendary scripts. Granted there are some <a href="http://www.moonlightsys.com/themoon/scifi.html">"old" science fiction tales</a>, but the genre as we know it today didn't exist until the early part of the 20th century. I don't mean to knock the likes of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Asimov">Isaac Asimov</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_A._Heinlein">Robert A. Heinlein</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_C._Clarke">Arthur C. Clarke</a>, or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_J._Anderson">Kevin J. Anderson</a>, but in a historical context the space traveling genre is the new kid on the block. And as the Noob so eloquently points out, some of Asimov's own underlying scientific theories haven't held up so well over the years.<br /><br />Take a gander at <a href="http://tagn.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/is-there-hope-for-a-science-fiction-mmorpg/">Noob's article</a> then come back here and let us know what you think. Are you a fantasy fanatic? Or do you yearn for a great sci-fi game that will even the decidedly lopsided MMO table back in the favor of ray guns and aliens?<p style="padding:5px;background:#ffffcc;border:1px solid #ffff99;clear:both;"><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com"><img src="http://massively.joystiq.com/media/feedlogo.gif" alt="Massively" style="float:left;padding:0 5px 5px 0;" /></a><a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/01/22/sci-fi-mmo-youre-my-only-hope/">Sci-fi MMO, you're my only hope...</a> originally appeared on <a href="http://massively.joystiq.com">Massively</a> on Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:30:00 EST.  Please see our <a href="http://www.weblogsinc.com/feed-terms/">terms for use of feeds</a>.<br style="clear:both;"></p><h6 style="clear: both; padding: 8px 0 0 0; height: 2px; font-size: 1px; border: 0; margin: 0; padding: 0;"></h6><a href=http://tagn.wordpress.com/2008/01/17/is-there-hope-for-a-science-fiction-mmorpg/>Read</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/01/22/sci-fi-mmo-youre-my-only-hope/" rel="bookmark" title="Permanent link to this entry">Permalink</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/forward/1093132/" title="Send this entry to a friend via email">Email this</a>&nbsp;|&nbsp;<a href="http://massively.joystiq.com/2008/01/22/sci-fi-mmo-youre-my-only-hope/#comments" title="View reader comments on this entry">Comments</a>]]></description><category>Ancient-Gaming-Noob</category><category>Arthur-C-Clarke</category><category>Beowulf</category><category>fantasy</category><category>Isaac-Asimov</category><category>Kevin-J-Anderson</category><category>MMO</category><category>MMORPG</category><category>MUDs</category><category>Robert-A-Heinlein</category><category>sci-fi</category><category>Sir-Thomas-Malory</category><category>Sir-Walter-Scott</category><category>Tolkien</category><dc:creator><![CDATA[Eli Shayotovich]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:30:00 EST</pubDate></item></channel></rss>
