Moonaura

Lot of drama in this thread.

I fail to see how our EvE community is different from any other MMO. I'm fed up of seeing CCP made out to be the guys, and the play base even more so. Some of the comments about our player community in these threads could easily be considered abusive and are in many respects, as stupid, ill thought and as disgraceful as Mittani's drunken outburst.

The idea that players are all lovely, sweetness and light on other MMO forums and games is truly laughable. I urge you to check any other MMO forum and you will see the same trolls, emo rage etc.

Big whoop.

I personally had real life death threats from players in WoW for kicking them out a guild. Pleasant.

But it's okay, that game has Panda's so it must be a community of happy people who never curse, or get drunk, or screw up, or never get banned (or temporarily banned) for saying something in game or out of it.

So please stop with the EvE community bashing. It's a great bunch of people, and while Goons like to play the villain, so what; it's fun that they do. We love to pretend to hate them, and they love to think they are actually hated. Alliance panel apart, the fanfest showed that the EvE player base is just a bunch of normal (slightly geeky) people with passion for what they enjoy, who actually have a laugh when together.

EvE is harsh, and this seems to rub some folks up the wrong way. The comments here make that clear.

But I think peoples memories are a bit limited. I remember playing WoW years ago and being trampled on by some 60 rogue killing me when I was level 20 and unable to finish a quest for an hour. Apparently PvP and griefing in other games is perfectly happy and lovely in other games, but in EvE - we're all considered sociopaths for shooting another ship.

That is some tough love right there!

I would argue this opinion about EvE players is both bias and wildly inaccurate. Almost all computer games are about combat and 'winning' in some form or another. Well maybe not the Sims - but hey, if folks want to make virtual babies etc, all power to them.

If anyone ever wants a hand getting into EvE, let me know. I would be more than happy to help and point you in the right direction. I think this sentiment represents the true majority of the EvE player base.

@Tiresias 'sociopathic tendencies' yeah thanks for that. I've found EvE players to be among the most passionate, intelligent and fun loving player base I've ever played an MMO with. Next you'll be saying all those MW3 players are murderers getting a fix for their addiction or something stupid. Can't believe people voted your post up.

@Moonaura https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1001839&#post1001839 Posted thoughts here.

The new adaptive resistance module was stated for ARMOR only. I have grave concerns about this, given that armor is already pretty much the defacto fleet tank choice, it further pushes shields into the background, as a corp just flying Caldari ships in fleets, it's sort of a kick in the nuts frankly. The shield fuel idea, well great for small gangs, but not fleets.

I believe the statement was that it won't allow enemy militias to dock in enemy factions stations. But colour me excited.

I have an alt that is purely aimed at using Carriers. Under the new rules, I will have wasted over two months of training time on battleships (I trained two races), a skill which I will never use on that character, because I have other characters who already fulfil that role.

I have to say, this feels a bit painful, given the time it has taken. I'd like to see that as an optional refund on skill points if I will only need Battleship IV moving forward to get into a capital.

@jslim419 This is why Bounty hunting needs to be fixed. And well... one day, the ability to go in station and shoot your targets head clean off :)

@LeBouc Indeed. The force is strong in that one.

I don't think it is so much about trying to take the sims market, as really flesh out and bring their fictional universe alive. It could be great if they get it right, but it will take a few years until it is done.

I'm glad it is now very much, a secondary goal for them, I had no doubt they would continue with it, given their focus on WOD uses the same engine. As long as the core gameplay is developed, its great news.

As for those who won't come back to the game yet... can I borrow your stuff? I promise not to scratch any ships. Probably.