Joe

"So, for you and I, we've been playing MMOs for a while. But there are people out there who have never touched any other MMO except for WoW. That game is all they know. They don't know what EQ was like, they don't know what UO was like, they don't know what MUDs are, so they don't have this broad concept. They just want stuff now and they want to get out quickly. They want instant gratification and they want to be constantly patted on the back with an enthusiastic, "Good job, good job!"

While you don't say that every player is this way, your comment insinuates that all WOW players are unsophisticated louts that have no idea what greatness is.

Well I played D&D black box in the early 80's,Zork1 and so on.... Played Realm, UO, EQ, SWG and DAOC which I thoroughly enjoyed.

To say that its kids that have no idea about games that dislike WAR and are a gratz happy bunch is not only short sighted but insulting. I gave WAR some real honest trials. I had 2 brand newish Macintosh laptops that I sold just to buy 2 windows laptops (costing me roughly $3k). Bought the early entry from Target, I drake the Koolaid you put out.

The game just sucked. It was beautiful and epic. It just lacked something. It was tough to do the public quests because even after launch you would have to run around an area and wait forever to get enough doing the PQ to even get the end guy.

Going to the capital cities was boring. I would wander around forever trying to find things. Even when I found the auction house there was no economy to speak of. Your team just missed the big picture. You focused on the beauty of the thing and missed what it takes to keep people coming back. Its not that WOW stole people from you which I bet they did. Its just that you released the game too soon. In beta everyone assumed that when the hordes of people showed up it would get better. All in all the game was a real flop and that is why I left.

I love how mythic does RVR, I think Bliz needs to learn how you did it in DAOC. Its just that you missed the mark with regards to the rest of the game. It was like a beautiful sculpture that was made out of paper thin clay and painted to look bronze. What you get is something gorgeous on the outside but hollow in the middle. Its a juicy steak made from tofu.

Be careful lumping we wow players in with 12yr old kids that have never played an MMO before. I have played them all and deserve a little respect when it comes to lumping everyone together.

I understand your frustrated, may lose your job and all that but blaming the players for not understanding your superior product is like Yugo being upset that the drivers of their cars are dying in automobile crashes and they have to close the factory. When you point tour finger at someone you have 3 more pointing back at you.

Tofu for thought...