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Posted: Mar 29th 2012 5:12PM Adeptus Enginus said

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At first I smiled, saying to myself "This is one of those times It pays to be in the good ol' USA"...

Then I remembered that unless things change, the only place to get a CE anyway in the USA is Gamestop. FML.

Posted: Mar 29th 2012 5:12PM smartstep said

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VAT is around 15-20%.

Problem is not that there is a price diffrence , problem is this price diffrence is TOO BIG.

Even if you account diffrence in taxes still there is still big diffrence they cannot explain.

Posted: Mar 29th 2012 6:07PM (Unverified) said

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@smartstep

Actually VAT is 15 to 27% depending on country. That's on top of a US MSRP which comes to an increase of about $30 per unit on average.

Next, you need to figure landed cost. I have no clue but I wouldn't be surprised if this came to $5 to $10 a unit. It really depends on where this is being produced.

Next would be a distributor's cut for the various Euro markets. This is where I would expect to see a significant increase and it could vary by country if they're utilizing different distributors.

There also may be a difference in the cost of local marketing.

I'm not surprised by a price increase like this but I export a lot of goods into Europe and our MSRPs are ridiculously high compared to the US.

That's my two US cents.
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Posted: Mar 29th 2012 6:31PM Lenn said

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@(Unverified) I find it highly suspicious that the price both in dollars and euros is 149.99. Exactly. Your theory sounds very good and all, but I have a strong feeling they simply swapped the dollar sign for the euro sign and called it a day. It's what they did when us Euro-folk had made the switch to the euro 10 years ago.
Example: here in Holland a beer used to cost about 2 guilders (our old currency). When the euro made its entrance, that very same beer cost 2 euros. Overnight. The exchange rate was 1 euro = 2.2 guilders. Within a day that humble beer more than doubled in price. And it wasn't limited to a beer at the local pub either.
It was't until about two years ago when the guy who was minister of finance at the time of the conversion admitted that that was pretty much what had happened.
Many retailers and pub/restaurant owners simply swapped the symbols, and everyone was so tied up with figuring out this new currency system, that they didn't really notice at first that the money was going out a lot faster than before.
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Posted: Mar 29th 2012 9:15PM smartstep said

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MSRP is set by NcSoft / Arena.net.
Thing is even if you take highest Vat into account price diffrence is still bigger. AND you should not take highest VAT into account cause majority of game's units will be sold with lower VAT than maximum one.

Landed cost. Please. Cost of transport is not that diffrent.
Of course it is lower by km / mile in US ,but EU has smaller distances.


Game boxes are not usually produced in one place and then distributed worldwide but they are usually in such big productions like GW2 produced in few places and I am sure that there will be at least one in Europe.

Thing is GW2 is priced SO MUCH higher not cause it need to be ,but cause it CAN be.

Like I said most of EU (and Aussie / NZ for that matter) would NOT be angry cause they have more expensive games.
We in EU understand that VAT increase price.

Thing is diffrence is TOO BIG.

Simple as that.


I am of opinion that some of risks with currency exchange rates ,etc should be taken by NcSoft as well.

Sure buying a game is privelege not right , but so is selling a game and exporting it to foreign countries.
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Posted: Mar 29th 2012 9:48PM (Unverified) said

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@smartstep

Do you want to be right or correct?

If your only goal is to be right then we have nothing left to discuss.

If however you would prefer to be correct then you need to learn a lot more about what your trying to discuss.

1. Landed costs is extremely relevant and has everything to do with where the product is produced, ocean versus air freight, inland deliver cost and custom brokers fees to name a few.

2. I have no concrete evidence but for CE, I'm fairly confident these will be produced in ONE location since the production will be quite limited given all the various elements included so again, landed costs come into play.

Then of course there are all the other points I brought up that you simply ignored or failed to comment on.

Bottom line, if you feel this is simply too expensive, vote with your wallet.

Keep in mind however that whatever this sells for, you can resell a factory sealed CE for much more, regardless of which country you buy it in once they are sold out.

Enjoy ;)
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Posted: Mar 30th 2012 5:43AM smartstep said

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Well thing is I was talking about price diffrence of ALL GW2 versions not just CE.

Oh and I am not buying CE - much too expensive for me to rationalize it's cost.

For location and amount of location of producing CE.
Thing is we don't know so any assumptions one way or another are imo futile.

We can discuss about things we have knowegedle imo.

PS. Yeah I am voting with my wallet - I always did. Thing is many people don't even when they are not wealthy people - many of them whine and don't like prices but still go into shop with money between teeth and buy it. It is funny and sad at same time.

Well marketting is king. Creating needs ftw ! :)
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Posted: Mar 29th 2012 5:14PM Calyptic001 said

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CE's are rip offs. Its only the game that matters

Posted: Mar 29th 2012 5:25PM (Unverified) said

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@Calyptic001

Pretty much. I have never and will never buy a collector's edition. I simply don't see the point in paying all that money for items which will end up sitting collecting dust while I play the game.
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Posted: Mar 29th 2012 7:57PM aurickle said

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@Calyptic001
I generally agree as well. The only CE's I'll even think about buying are the ones that have a quality figure. Halo Reach did it for me and that sculpture -- even though it's plastic -- looks great in my game room. All the other CE stuff like lithographs, audio CD, etc. basically get glanced at and then end up back in the box forever.

Of course, for that reason I'm seriously considering the GW2 CE. The Rytlock figure looks like he could be pretty awesome, especially since it's 10" high. I just wish I knew what it was made of (ie. polystone vs. plastic).
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Posted: Mar 29th 2012 5:18PM kurosenshu said

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This has been happening for years in the gaming industry, sony, microsoft console prices are a good example, it's always like if it costs $250 US they will charge £250 pounds as if the fking currency conversion ratio is 1:1, and just now you're noticing.....? We Europeans have always been getting the short end of the stick in these matters but the reversal is never true for products that are cheaper in europe they would never adopt the european price they would make a new US dollar price for it.

Posted: Mar 29th 2012 6:09PM real65rcncom said

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@kurosenshu
You Europeans economy is all tied together. If one of you go, you all start to go. This is why you pay extra.. for some of the countries who cannot pull their own weight in your combined economy.

The U.S. is affected, but not siamese-twinned like you others. Sure if things go bad for you, we get hit as well with increases but not as severe.

I've said this many times before why this is happening in games regarding Euro countries (and goods in general): you are paying for countries like Greece when they go kaput economic wise.

Don't yell at companies who have their hands tied; yell at your own governments.
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Posted: Mar 29th 2012 6:14PM Lenn said

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@real65rcncom "yell at your own governments."

We do. They don't listen.
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Posted: Mar 29th 2012 6:39PM Mikx said

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@real65rcncom Umm... this issue predates the formation of the EU.
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Posted: Mar 30th 2012 12:49PM JadoCast said

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@Lenn

Neither does ours (US). Just like SOPA, everyone went nuts, and the Gov backed off, only to find another way to screw us. SOPA/PIPA issue isn't dead, and the gov will still get what they want ignoring everyone in the majority that's against it. Wait and see.
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Posted: Mar 29th 2012 5:22PM Protoavis said

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That's all well and good but the difference in cost between the digital versions is attributed to what exactly?

Posted: Mar 29th 2012 5:38PM potaco said

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@Protoavis
That's an awful far distance for those bits to travel...
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Posted: Mar 29th 2012 5:51PM Floop the Squirrel said

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@potaco

Europe: About as far away as Rigel 7 ... according to Anet, at least.

Also, Europeans: http://i2.listal.com/image/2892295/500full.jpg
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Posted: Mar 29th 2012 5:23PM Fightmaster said

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Explanation: They want more monies.

Posted: Mar 29th 2012 7:55PM Space Cobra said

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