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Posted: Mar 28th 2012 2:43PM Deliverator said

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At the very least I'd like someone to explain how drop boxes are NOT pay to win.

You pay and then you see what you've won. Did you get what you wanted? Are you a little ahead in the game at least?

By simply paying - and not even knowing what you were paying for - you are now further along in your game.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2012 7:03PM Space Cobra said

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"But if you look at how much you spend on the lockboxes until you get your 'rare' item the price they could slap on it in the cash shop by itself pales in comparison."

True, I definitely realize that, which is why I'd just rather buy it outright and save me the trouble of plunking money into it until I got what I wanted. I know it probably gives them more money. Personally, I could choose to 'fall" for it knowingly or just don't bother with it. Sometimes I will try but then give up in disgust and hey, they've lost this "whale", at least for a long stretch (like a year or 3).

I can fall for Pavlov or not, but others don't have the insight. Really, I don't like gambling iRL unless it is a "sure thing"; I just hate to lose money.

I don't know if your definition of "Pay to Win" applies to Lock Boxes (or maybe you are trying to underline a different point). To me, they are more akin to gambling, but not in the way most people acknowledge it. It's a bit of a "lite gamble". I hope I can conjure up an image of the old vending machines at Supermarkets and stores; the ones that you put a coin in, turn the handle, and get some item. They always came in little clear plastic bubble backs. Some had large bubbles and those cost .25 cents US and had the best prizes and others had the smaller packs, which tended to work GREAT as a space helmet for your 3 3/4" Star Wars figure! They still sorta have those around, especially Japanese ones, but the American ones, would tend to show you one item front and center of its advertising card that was cool, like a spy camera or whatever and you'd try your luck getting the item.

I know people will disagree, but really, that is gambling, even if it is light/benign. I could spend a whole roll of quarters getting that item and empty the machine or get lucky and get it on the first quarter. Of course, online, you don't have that sort of luxury; we get unlimited randomness.

I understand the "temptation" of showing the item and getting people to spend, but since I know about it, I just rather avoid the grief and buy it, either from someone else or whatnot. I may even just remove myself altogether from wanting it emotionally. But, I realize, not everyone is like me and they will desire it. Prey on that "need" to get the "super cloak that flashes", even if it is purely cosmetic.

Now, supposedly, some games are not too bad (I've been asking about the CoH version and most say the drop rate is reasonable), but in the future? Yes, the drop rates tweaked and whatnot...very disconcerting.
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Posted: Mar 28th 2012 3:22PM Vunak said

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Whatever helps this guy sleep at night................

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