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Posted: Mar 27th 2012 5:50AM Jingo said

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Wouldn't be surprised if the victim actually set the whole thing up just to chop the head off the snake.
Eve style.

Also, your capacitor is empty.

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 5:54AM madeleen said

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Ban, Ban, Ban, Ban, Ban.

Eve Online is not the right atmosphere for him. He'll just go right back into the abusive behaviors the game enables.

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 5:58AM Sean D said

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Gotit. I can say or do anything I want as long as I apologize afterward.

I've read about this guy's behavior in and out of EvE for years now, I've read a few of his comments in forums, and now I've watched him on video at Fanfest. He strikes me as intelligent enough to know how to play a political game. I'll bet he speaks out of both sides of his mouth so often that it's second nature to him. While he's apologizing publicly, he's joking about the stir he's caused with his inner cult of followers and plotting his next magic trick. His words evoke no sense of remorse. CCP would do well to take a stand here. The game needs leaders with more integrity.

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 6:06AM Pasha said

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This is exact type of person EVE deserves as CSM chairman. No wonder CCP isn't going to ban him and also no wonder game doesn't progress anywhere - it's already perfect as arena for cyber-bullying sociopaths.

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 6:14AM (Unverified) said

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Everyone likes to apologize when they have something to lose.

These are never "real" apologies.

They are saying what they need to say out of fear.

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 9:44PM Laephis said

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I love how some random Internet stranger is able to peer into the hearts of men and tell the true motives of another random Internet stranger. What technology enables you to perform this marvelous feat?

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Posted: Mar 27th 2012 6:29AM scottsummer said

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CCP wants guys like him for media coverage, noises and controversy .

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 6:39AM (Unverified) said

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I'm not buying it. It's not like he woke up the next day and rushed to apologize.
He's shown up in threads talking about the issue brushing it off and taunting people with the election result. There's been dozens of goons attacking everyone in those threads and making light of the issue as if it were nothing.
None of them said "he was drunk he didn't mean what he said" or "you're taking it out of context" or something similar, they all said "this game is all about griefing you don't get it because you're pubbies lololol".

But now suddenly that CCP is reacting to bad press and investigating the issue he's all mortified by what went on and all the goons are saints who are only ROLEPLAYING being twats. Yeah right ...

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 6:59AM Renko said

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If he had meant a single word of that fake "full and sincere apology" he would have resigned his position immediately. Instead he issues this nonsense in the hope he gets away with it. With cyber bullying becoming a criminal offense in more and more countries unless CCP bans him this idiot could help bring down EVE itself.

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 7:40AM Maseno said

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@Renko

It won't bring down anything. Most people in game that I have seen/read the forums do not really care about this and think the initial message to Goonswarm was a hoax anyway.
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Posted: Mar 27th 2012 6:59AM (Unverified) said

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With each passing news story on Eve Online, I am LESS interested in trying the game.

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 10:27AM Boardwalker said

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EVE has a great community, ingame. It's actually the most helpful and passionate group that I've played with in any MMO that I've tried. I suggest you cut through all the hyperbole written by players here on Massively and check out the free trial, firsthand. The Rookie channel, and general Help channel, are always filled with helpful people. As with any game, simply ignore/block the trolls.
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Posted: Mar 27th 2012 7:39AM Maseno said

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I really don't know why people are making such a stink about this. There is a high probability that the guy who he pointed out was trying to get them to reimburse him for his losses (23 mackinaws in one shot) by fabricating a tale of woe and suicidal tendencies.

Either way I am always more than happen when those douche bags in Goonswarm get punished. IP ban would make my day.

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 7:40AM Tatwi said

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Well, that constitutes a "real life threat" in Canada. We have laws against cyber bullying for the very sad reason that people have been driven to hurt themselves or commit suicide, because of the actions of others online. Pushing someone in front of the bus isn't any different than pushing someone to jump infront of it. People are highly suggestible creatures and many people disgustingly derive pleasure from manipulating others. These puppeteers are some of societies most dangerous people, because they can twist logic successfully on most people. Anyhow, I have no patience or sympathy for people who act this way. As for being drunk: it's a crime if you kill someone when driving drunk; being drunk is obviously not a free pass commit a crime.

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 7:42AM Azaetos said

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When you concider that Alec had organized the information that was displayed on the screen regarding the targetted player at Fanfest before the event, therefore before any type of alcohol consumption was involved means his intention was to do what he did all along. The he got drunk and said the wrong thing arguement doesn't hold any water based on his actions before the event.

He did some good with giving CCP a much needed boot in the backside after Incarna, but this was just a really stupid thing to do because he has now backed CCP into a corner where they will have to act.

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 7:44AM (Unverified) said

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His apology is a joke. Hours before this he was posting in the 1st thread on the subject to 'deal with it' and downplaying whatever he said at the Alliance panel.

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 8:11AM Krovak said

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Say listen guys, as much of a tool as this guy is, and as twisted as "some" of the Eve community may be, there is a huge part of the player base that is just having good fun in a very good game. Do not even try to make out the vast majority of the player base to be "sociopaths" or some kind of degenerate scum bags. Eve is an amazing game overall with a huge following of great people that love to have fun in this very successful MMO. To try to discredit the entire player base by this guys current statements would be almost as despicable as his recent actions.

I have no idea if he is sincere in his apology or not. Based on what I have observed of in-game behavior, vast electronic material on various forums, and even video footage from previous FanFest panels he has been on, I find it highly likely he is just in survival mode trying to ride out the storm. All one has to do is google "The Mittani" if you think the current flap up over his actions are from an isolated one time slip in judgement on the public stage CCP provided him with. I really hope this spot light on his actions will bring about a positive change for him, and CCP policy enforcement. There really is a segment of the community that this guy represents very well. But they are not the majority by any means. The play style and player base he truly represents are a force to be reckoned with in game. But they sure as hell do not represent the overall Eve community.

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 8:56AM Deliverator said

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Wow. I don't think I've ever seen a faster lynch mob full of self righteous gamers with an opinion.

I don't play Eve, don't know the guy.

Obviously what he did wasn't right, but come on people - an international 'cyber-bullying' incident?

Posted: Mar 27th 2012 10:41AM Boardwalker said

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@Deliverator

I agree. Reading all the gross generalizations, hyperbole, and self righteousness by the posters here on Massively is painful. If Massively were a game, and the posters its players, it would have the worst community of any game.

What this player did was wrong, stupid, and mean. I watched it as it happened, and I just shook my head. It shows what happens when you mix alcohol, a public forum, and a bunch of young guys wanting to have a good time. Let's not make it more than it is.

And let's also not claim that he represents the player base of EVE as a whole. He doesn't. The EVE community is a passionate group, no doubt. And they are also the most helpful that I've ever played with. One "bad apple" doesn't change that.
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Posted: Mar 27th 2012 5:31PM Utakata said

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@Boardwalker

So where are all these straw grossly generalized, hyperbolic and self righteousness commentors on this subject you speak of?
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