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Posted: Mar 22nd 2012 8:11PM (Unverified) said

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I rarely completely agree with guild related posts, but this one's 100% true in my experience.

Posted: Mar 22nd 2012 8:32PM Tousen said

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You have made some excellent points on leadership and given some very good advice in how to deal with such a role.

Very nice read. Thank you.

Posted: Mar 22nd 2012 8:36PM belgeode said

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I agree 100% with this post. In my experience, I have run big guilds, small guilds, been a CEO of a virtual airline, an elder liason between guilds... All stints that have lasted at least a year of real time. These were some of the best moments of my gaming history, and also some of the most challenging.

I am constantly amazed at the circle of (now) real life friends that have remained by me long after "the good old days" are gone, and the next game comes along.

I will say this though, the leadership role that has given me the most joy hands down.... is when I game with my daughter and/or son. There is nothing more rewarding for me.

Posted: Mar 22nd 2012 8:42PM avidlurker said

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Interestingly I think I'm the opposite of your hidden leader.

Once again I have taken up a game, entered a guild and was more or less pushed to an officer spot.
All I want is to be a helpful and useful guild rank member...

It's late and I've only quickly skimmed your article but I do believe you have explicitly named a few points that I have always felt I'm at odds with and that have made the officer position difficult for me.

Hopefully we find a bunch of people that do have those qualities and that can grow into officers, then I can hopefully step back and be happier in what is supposed to be a leisure activity after all...

Posted: Mar 22nd 2012 8:45PM Dunraven said

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Good article...still I fully believe that in five years or less Guilds will be a thing of the past; there is too much drama too much BS and way too much work.

Posted: Mar 22nd 2012 8:47PM toychristopher said

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What's with that picture? Are you implying you have to be overweight in order to be a guild leader?

Posted: Mar 23rd 2012 12:29PM DeepSleeper said

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@toychristopher
They're implying you have to be Liu Bei.
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Posted: Mar 22nd 2012 9:08PM Deliverator said

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I am overweight and I've worked hard at it, but I'm not ready to be a guild leader.
I have all of those qualities... about 25% of the time and never in the same order or during the same cycle. I can do back end - organization, site, site graphics, forum and write the occasional review - but not the big kahuna.

I have a lot of respect for those who can deal with all of the people issues though. Huzzah oh great and powerful herders of cats!

Posted: Mar 22nd 2012 9:13PM Elikal said

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Been there done that.

Posted: Mar 22nd 2012 9:39PM Deliverator said

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I think I recognize that guild leader.

Posted: Mar 22nd 2012 10:38PM cyborat said

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I don't have anything to say about the article, other than.... Does anyone else think the dude in the pic for this article look like the sarge in the old Gomer Pyle show? HA!

Posted: Mar 23rd 2012 10:14AM Tom in VA said

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@cyborat

In my best Gomer imitation: "Well, Golllllleeeee!"

Yes, yes, he does. Thanks for reminding me how old I am, dude! ;)
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Posted: Mar 23rd 2012 9:56AM Tom in VA said

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This was a good essay.

However, the only thing more objectionable or unpleasant than being in a guild, imo, would be leading one. There's absolutely no way I ever would.

I've learned to "just say no" to guilds altogether. That's the stress-free, drama-free, guilt-free, hassle-free way to play, imo. PUGs, general chat (when I have it turned on), and the AH give me all the "social interaction" (and sometimes drama) I need in an MMO.

Posted: Mar 23rd 2012 1:19PM Space Cobra said

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I tend not to "make" guilds and some of the guilds I join are...well, rather lax/small/too easy-going. (I need to find a bit more active guild).

I'd probably make a good guild officer, but my times keep me away from logging into games on a daily basis...and sometimes I give myself about a week off for other games/RL things.

Some of the better leaders are given a measure of power; they have power thrust upon them. That seems to be true iRL and seems to apply to me. Really, I kinda don't want the extra responsibility: I'd just rather log on and play, but if you give me some power, I will take it personally and be more active because I care about other people's experiences. Now, my weakness may be "walking away" because of the added responsibility... :p

Posted: Mar 23rd 2012 8:04PM Graill440 said

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You are kidding yourself (i have a better descriptor, but some sensitive folks would bitch) if you think you are a leader in a game and have no prior real life positions to show competance in this real world trait. Working at Sears or Micky D's doesnt count either kids.

The love affair and sexy feelings that some Gamers feel when being called a leader or teacher in a game is all fantasy, and rightly so. The developers and publisher push this behaviour with mechanics to try and get as many folks into their games as possible, making it intoxicating, and once a gamer is labled with the term "Leader" or even "Teacher", anyone commenting to the negative is a "Baddy" (chuckle).

You can show monkies what to do by rote action and they will learn eventually, some are smarter than others and require less show me time. Dont get me wrong, i love games as much as the next person that happens to enjoy this hobby, but the fact is, an MMO is a time burner, and a brief escape from reality to relieve stress, anything more and you may need to seek professional help.

Be satisfied though, take your break in the fantasy world where responsibility, leadership, consequence, etc, do not exist, in name or function, enjoy yourself, and then when you are ready to face the reality that is your life, turn that computer off and open the front door into the real world, where things actually do matter and where you can actually try your hand at real leadership or teaching, and where your actions in these matters actually do have consequence.

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