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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 11:32AM Repopulation said

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sounds great so far.

Posted: Mar 5th 2012 11:49AM valdi313 said

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I saw the 1.2 video presentation....man, that are packing a LOT into this patch. Some really really great stuff in there for fans of the game :)

Posted: Mar 5th 2012 12:00PM Valentina said

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1.2 is freaking EPIC!!!!!!! It's honestly bigger than many paid expansions have been, and we don't even have tons of details til 2 CST.

Posted: Mar 5th 2012 12:19PM J45neoboy said

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@Valentina

I missed it sadly. What's expected to be arriving with 1.2?
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 12:28PM valdi313 said

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@J45neoboy
The patch is coming in "early april". In the patch will be a new planet, new FP, new warzone, TONS of legacy stuff (more races opened up, legacy skills, building your family tree).
Oh, and complete UI customization.
Freaking awesome stuff!
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 2:36PM Valentina said

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@J45neoboy Yep, New planet, new warzones, new operation, new flashpoints, upgraded warzone system, rankings, pets, gear, updated graphics, legacy expansion which will allow you to unlock species and class/species combinations, and many other features about it we wont know until this afternoon. I didn't list everything there really is A LOT! All the information should be posted all over the place by tonight if you can't view or listen to anything during your day.
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 4:57PM J45neoboy said

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@Valentina

Oh wow, That's a lot. Enough to match two of Rift's patches. Can't wait BioWare!
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 12:22PM Joaquin Crowe said

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Only one week? I guess in 3 more months it'll be an open 15-day trial as per industry standard.

Posted: Mar 5th 2012 12:26PM Repopulation said

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@Joaquin Crowe ah I knew it wouldnt be long before someone complained about something.... :sigh:
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 4:52PM Joaquin Crowe said

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@Repopulation Not so much a complaint, as wondering why they're being so stingy.
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 12:27PM edgecrusherO0 said

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Well, 1.2 is shaping up to be pretty good. I guess all those features they were forced to cut so they could ship it by the holidays are starting to make it back into the game. Good on them.

Posted: Mar 5th 2012 12:27PM Dunraven said

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A few things I am concerned about:

During the TORWARS pre summit podcast all you really heard was "More raid or die Plz" from the attending guild leaders.

Then when the summit starts we get a brief commercial for the game that basically shows end game for everyone except the non-raiders after that the rest of the world gets cut off while "the invited" continue the summit.

I'm sorry but this isn't the direction I want to see SWTOR take; it's really almost if Bioware is giving a finger to the casual player and pointing them to GW2. Folks know that I am a huge SWTOR supporter....but I'm really concerned that we are looking at a Raid or Die WoW clone in the future.

Posted: Mar 5th 2012 12:58PM pid said

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@Dunraven I hope they'll keep an eye on non-guilded partly solo-playing doods like me, 'cause if they only patch for guilds it's going to be disappointing. I even don't do heroics or FPs and neither warzones, just plain ole vanilla questing. having a blast, but they need to pack more PVE for the end game.
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 1:00PM Repopulation said

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@pid I dont see them patching this way seeing how you will have a "solo Warzone rating"
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 2:45PM DerpMchurson said

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@Dunraven Really not sure what the casuals are complaining about. EV can be done on normal with a pug in about an hour.
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 4:51PM Budukahn said

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@DerpMchurson

Dozens of other games do the "Raid or Die" thing. Many, probably better than ToR. That aside, for myself and many others the best thing about The Old Republic was the stories, and especially the class stories. They were probably the only unique thing to ToR. Personally, I found the Imperial Agent story especially one of the most entertaining plots I've played through in any RPG.

I think I can safely say there's a lot of folks sitting back looking at the interlude screen when they load in and asking "When's Chapter 4 coming out?"
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 1:13PM (Unverified) said

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This got posted shortly after it was broadcast. It is the 1.2 trailer... Thought those that missed it might like to watch it... Looks like HD quality is available, so don't watch it at the default ugly if you don't have to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtnLMcWdARY

Posted: Mar 5th 2012 1:18PM roberticvs said

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Static and dead worlds.

SWTOR is a battle game, and not a massively-multiplayer roleplaying game. I had high hopes for it, and even defended it. I complain about it because I love SW and want it to succeed, but the current developers created a static and dead universe, seemingly without realizing that's what they were doing.

See all those empty chairs in the gigantic fleet space station cantina? They are the perfect metaphor for this game: empty chairs, because you can't sit in them, nor would you have any reason to do so. There are no people because there is no community because there is no reason to interact with one another except to take down "bosses" that carry loot to enable you to keep on doing the same thing over and over again.

Posted: Mar 5th 2012 2:29PM Valentina said

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@roberticvs Ummm...Are you not paying attention to *ANYTHING* bioware has been saying? lol
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 2:56PM roberticvs said

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@Valentina

I wish I could share your enthusiasm, Valentina, but as others have posted in the Bio forums, it's really the underlying design and not the promises that are indicative of where this game is headed.

The Addiction Model of MMO design: Have player kill groups of 3 or 4 by spamming their most effective attack combos. Get to the next boss. Give player reward.

In a recent interview, a dev was asked if they planned to include interactive mini-games like pazaak. The dev replied that they didn't have any specific plans for it, but that if they did, it would be included in a major update.

Now, I'm not gonna cry about pazaak, but I WILL cry about the lack of interaction amongst players, the lack of immersion and the failed meta on the part of the devs (Companion Gifts merchants? Dark Force Merchants? Jedi Masters waiting in cantinas to train you up? Rakata Gear merchants? Speeders on the space stations...?) All red flags of rushed and shallow design. Sorry.
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