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Posted: Mar 4th 2012 6:48PM Omali said

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I'm awed a lot in the ingenuity some people put into their scams.

Posted: Mar 5th 2012 2:16AM (Unverified) said

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@Omali
I know. I was quite shocked to learn that most career criminals are not (as portrayed in movies) low intelligent and low motivation individuals. In fact what really separates a con-artist from most people is opportunity and moral values (or at least fear of repercussion). Eve has plenty of opportunity and very little in the way of repercussion, not to mention the same anonymity issues that most of the rest of the internet has (so morality is iff-y at best).
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 11:26AM dajones said

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@Omali lol, I wouldn't call it awe as much as exasperation and fatigue.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2012 6:52PM Ragemaster9999 said

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Good article, Iv never actually done any scamming myself, but some of my friends have, and let me tell you there are ALOT Of dumb people in EVE. One of my current corp-mates has been scammed several times. Each time because he didnt bother to read the fine print. Buying 500 mil worth of Ogre Is, selling his vigilent for 300k, losing expensive t3 because he didnt have a scout on the other side of a gate when taking an engagement, the list goes on. We like to rib on him in ts but truith is he isnt the only kind of podpilot out there.

The only time I was "could have" been scammed, is when I bought my first dreadnaught, I payed 1.6 bil for it, along with the capital mods and isotopes.... but the contract was missing the actual dread. Thankfully the dude just screwed up and gave the dread to me with a big apology... he could have easily dicked me out of 1.2 B.

Posted: Mar 4th 2012 7:52PM (Unverified) said

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Elaborate.. This must be the only sandbox that has ever had these problems.. Is this to say that it should be the blueprint of a successful sandbox, or that the focus has shifted to more of a "how-to" rather than an actual game that you play?

With all this and more going on, when does the fun start and the seriousness end?

Or is this like the stock exchange, where this type of heartache IS a good part of the actual fun?

Posted: Mar 4th 2012 9:30PM Xilmar said

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It's not a headache for everyone, I find it quite interesting. Plus you get to meet new people, that's always nice. The distraction while I'm doing trivial stuff is a good bonus.
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Posted: Mar 4th 2012 7:55PM (Unverified) said

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This post was made in collaboration with Spaceship Barbie!

Posted: Mar 5th 2012 7:22AM (Unverified) said

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I don't get why my comment is downrated. Whoever dowrated it don't know the most famous Amarrian scammer.
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 2:25PM Xilmar said

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I myself thought it was a great comment. But i assume you're new here, so here's how things work. Massively is filled with fanbois of all shapes and sizez, fanbois for just about every single type of game. Ergo i would suggest the most friendly and well intentioned htfu for future posting.

FYI the downrate from me had nothing to do with you or your post, but rather because of that exclamation point. It wasn't really necessary, was it?
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Posted: Mar 4th 2012 8:30PM Korvix said

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"In a moment of tiredness, even the best of us can accidentally misplace a zero or misread billion as million. "

Yep, have done that one before. Been up for 48 hours and lost 388mil ( after selling the items I got for some money back ).

Also IPO and Share Trading can be a very risky business. Lost 300 mil to Curzon Dax and his scam when he left game. For those of you that don't follow EVE he was a Celebrity in game; before quitting he ran a very successful IPO scam. Even using extreme caution its pretty easy for a Vet to get scammed. Its just a part of EVE.

Posted: Mar 4th 2012 9:40PM Xilmar said

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One should not have local open in jita anyway, it's laggy and will make you dumb.

Also go in the recruitment channel and ask what's a goon/who are goons.

Posted: Mar 4th 2012 9:45PM Scuffles said

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Posted: Mar 4th 2012 10:44PM Pasha said

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Game where you have to wait for 6+ months to grow a pilot capable to use certain ships (logistics for example) while sitting in space stations whole time (or you'll have to waste few more months for skills to pilot additional types of ships) + you have to pay for multiple accounts if you want more than one pilot in case if you think sitting in space station is too boring - this game IS a scam itself.

Posted: Mar 4th 2012 11:43PM SgtBaker1234556 said

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@Pasha

So it's not like you'll be able to jump into a end-game raid from day 1 in any other MMO either.

In EVE you can - but you'll be flying Rifters.
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Posted: Mar 6th 2012 12:02AM Artificial said

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@Pasha There is no reason to be sitting in a space station the whole time. There's plenty you can be doing from day one. There are plenty of other spaceships you can fly while you're waiting for whatever super-awesome pwnmobile you want (and frankly, if you aren't out playing in the meanwhile, you're probably going to be very disappointing in that pwnmobile when you get tit, since you lack the experience you should have been getting in the meanwhile to learn to fly it well).
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 12:35AM Obext said

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Would someone enlighten me on EvE? I played for a few weeks and liked the concept but found I was trapped or on rails the whole time. I would warp to diffrent areas but once you got into that area most was empty space.

It was like jumping into a pool, swimming around, then jumping into a diffrent pool and swimming around some more but you were trapped in the pool. I felt no freedom whatsoever.

Posted: Mar 5th 2012 8:07AM zgomot said

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@Obext

There is freedom, too much of it actually, if you ask some people.

One just needs to learn how and where to look for it. It is true that jumping from gate to gate can make you feel like you are on rails, but you can't warp to planets, moons, asteroid belts, containers etc... even to an imaginary point (bookmark) in empty space. There is also very much freedom of movement - you can fly in any direction you chose.
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 8:09AM zgomot said

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@zgomot

That was supposed to be "You CAN warp to planets..." CAN not CAN'T.

WTB edit button.
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Posted: Mar 5th 2012 12:52AM jslim419 said

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you know.. there is one thing that has kind of nagged on me about eve. full time players, and even dev's have said on multiple occasions that prevalence of confidence trick's in eve show how deep of a sand box the game is, and the value of the risk vs. reward style of game play in eve.

it's true nearly everything you do in eve has some risk, a small portion of it has reward. but is someone who embarks on a scam (that developers themselves embrace as a "part of the game") really taking any risk at all? in the real world someone caught in a scam would be indicted on fraud charges. from my point of view unless the dev's make a virtual jail for scammer's who are caught then the profession is all reward, and no risk.

Posted: Mar 6th 2012 6:26AM Moonaura said

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@jslim419 This is why Bounty hunting needs to be fixed. And well... one day, the ability to go in station and shoot your targets head clean off :)
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