Leaderboard: Lockboxes yea vs. lockboxes nay

For the last time, it's 'per se'. Anyway, I think the idea of unlocking stuff for real money lends itself well to f2p games. I know in RoM I spent a good amount of money gambling to get easy gear upgrades. Ultimately, I prefer this method to grinding the same dungeon/raid for 100 hours. Now, if you have these parallel systems, usually the hardcore raiders will whine. My solution is don't have raids :) Raids are terrible, and hardcore raiders are not my favorite types.

Considering some are basically luck-based causing you to be playing a virtual lottery system, I'll say nay. At least for other cash shop items you know what you're getting.

I have no problem at all with the lockboxes in STO.

Everything in them you can buy on the in game exchange without paying a cent.

Heck even the key can be received from the exchange for not very much in game cash.

Also if i remember correctly they are going away or getting replaced at the end of this episode.

Gambling? No. I don't gamble.

I was a dealer in a casino for several years. My husband still is. We know the odds. We know how they're always stacked massively in the house's favor. Thus, we do not gamble. To do so would be the height of stupidity, that we were knowingly throwing our money away.

I don't even like in-game lockboxes that are gained without real monetary funds: such as LotRO, which has boxes you purchase with various festival-gained tokens.... because, time and time (bag of coal after bag of coal) again, I'm reminded with how similar it is to something I despise: Gambling, and how the player is guaranteed to lose far more than win.

Nice to see how many Developers and PUblishers are seeing this. Its easy to follow with the 20% yes that have been voted so far.

Hopefully they notcie the 80% that dont like it. And reading the coments - its a gamebreaking feature that keep ppl AWAY from the game rather then to get them to play.

It makes me uncomfortable. Most people are reasonable about gambling, most of the time. The exceptions are occasionally troubling. Casinos at least make token efforts to assist people (adults, of course) with gambling problems. People are going to get into trouble, customers first.

I have never spent a penny on a cash shop item which promised a random award, and I don't expect that I ever will. And I spent quite a lot of time playing an F2P game - Atlantica Online - that was absolutely rife with the concept of gambling boxes.

First i understand some people believe that games are F2P and Santa Claus is real, as is the Easter Bunny, but really the boxes in STO are a joke, requiring keys to open, needing real world cash to aquire.

i have been quite lucky in STO as of late as i have a large amount of dilithium and can purchase cpoints, i have done this to aquire a couple decent ships and even have (had) the EC to buy a very overpriced Galor on the exchange, needless to say i am not as rich as i once was but EC is really easy to get in STO, but neither have i spent a dime on this game other than the original digital box when it first came out. One could almost say they were playing a true F2P game.....NOT.

Keep in mind these cpoints are bought with real money by other players and put on the market for sale, so you cannot grind cpoints if you are wondering, always a catch in those "F2P" games eh?.

The fraud is at max capacity hoping people with cash, they neednt be whales (folks with too much spendable income) most having no control, will spend money on key packs to unlock, well, on alot of garbage to be truthful. Players ingame even question how many of the flying titles are real as apparently alot of folks message these players only to find they do not exist, something to think about.

I do not know what is going on the other two games putting these boxes out, one being i do not play them, other than creepside in one but F2P games do not ask for cash, nor should they create a mechanic in which deception and preying on lack of willpower (others) will gain them cash.

Not only does this make people spending cash in a Supposedly F2P game look incredibly stupid but it shows the company involved cares about one thing, and it is not its customers.

Plus rumors abound on the drop rates and whether CBS had anything to do with them.

So much sillyness going on, now excuse me, i have to celebrate Leap Day.

Nay! Lootboxes are perfect example of designing game around cashop, instead making a fun way of getting some nice shiny items. They'll put rare best items in game(like best weapons in LOTRO), make free keys pita to get(so fanboys can still defend it) and watch how money rolls in.

Nay, nay, and thrice nay.

Unfortunately it only takes a small minority of players to buy worthless crap for it to be worthwhile for games companies to sell it.

To add to what's already been said:

Lockboxes can drop off anything destructible in STO. Apart from your extremely limited inventory space rapidly flooding with them, what this means for new players is that the ONLY loot that drops off borgs killed during the tutorial are these 'pay to win' lockboxes. No other loot drops off mobs and other destructibles.

What a great advertisement for the game.

A friend of mine started it up, got 2 of those in the tutorial and nothing else of course, and quit because he thought the only way you could get items in the game was py buying these keys from the shop to get a tiny chance at something that wasn't utter rubbish.

I hated those lockboxes. I kept on dumping them out. I can visualize over 200+ lockboxes making their way back to the Dominion like rubber duckies.

That being said, the keys were going for a relatively cheap price on the exchange (1.3 million EC) compared to the actual price of the Galor (about 100 million EC or more, which is roughly 1 month's worth of grinding STFs)

I WANT GAME FOR FREE! "Well, okay, you can have a free to play MMORPG, but servers, bandwidth, and staff cost money, so we have to figure a way of earning some." I WANT GAME FOR FREEEEEE-EEEEE! "Yes, we heard you the first time. Okay, here's what we have. There's a cash shop that'll let you buy some useful things for as much or as little as you want to spend." I NOT SPEND! I WANT GAME FOR FREE! "This isn't working out. Fine. Here's this incredibly shiny thing you want, and we're going to stick it in these boxes. To open a box, you either have to do a bunch of work in game, or buy a key in the cash shop." OMG, I HATE U SO MUCH! I WANT GAME FOR FREE! GIVE SHINY FOR FREE! "We regret to inform you that Free MMORPG You Never Supported will be closing its servers next month. We're sorry we were unable to keep going, but you're cheap so you have no one to blame buy yourselves." I KNEW IT! F2P SUX! GIVE ME GAME FREE! "We're going to develop some console shooters now. Thanks for playing."