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Posted: Feb 22nd 2012 10:02PM (Unverified) said

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This is all well and good, and I agree with this article's message...

But the game's not entitled to players either ;)

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 2:55AM Vundal said

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@(Unverified) just like everquest and Eve , COH owes alot of to the players of this game. the have extremely loyal players who love the devs and the game world, and in alot of cases spent years in these games.


after a certain point, when the game is past its prime by most standards but still striving harder and harder it needs to take a step back and tell its players " We fucking love you guys."
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Posted: Feb 22nd 2012 10:51PM grendel69 said

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I paid and played CoH since closed beta. I took approximately 8 months off total until I stopped playing last year. When CoH went "F2P" I was very exicted - hopeful. I had returned to school and just didn't have the time to play like I used to. I had purchased each expansion, including Going Rogue and was surprised and extremely disappointed upon learning that F2P disallowed my accessing content I had previously paid for. I don't know whether or not it is reasonable that I can't play/access any of the GR content or even apply all the "purple" set enhancements and such that I had earned throughout my time in the game. Billions of influence and close to one thousand dollars later and I can't even use the stuff I'd earned while I was a paying customer (nearly 7 years). Is anyone else disappointed like this? Not trying to bitch - just express.

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 12:26AM (Unverified) said

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But you probably SHOULD be bitching. I know I'm never playing the game again because of that. Expansions not available, character slots I paid for not available. I can't even log on to most of my characters. Utterly ridiculous. I'll never be giving them another red cent.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 12:38AM starka1 said

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I'm surprised you don't have access to purples. At a little over 60 months veteran plus about $75 purchase in points, I have not noticed the lack of access to Inventions and their bonuses. I think you may need to review what you have again. The only thing I'm missing is Incarnate access(which does not appeal to me) and the ability to pay base rent.

I want to add, great article and as a Premium player with the most unlocks possible without a subscription, I'm getting a hell of a deal. I hope other players keep plopping down $100/month on boosters and anything else as I continue to play for free, waiting for something I actually want to buy.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 1:18AM (Unverified) said

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@grendel69
If you really did have more than 66 months of game time (aka more than five and a half years) but you didn't have access to your IOs then there's something wrong. Permanent access to IOs is the reward for finishing Tier 7 which you get at 27 tokens (66 monts of vet rewards).

If you purchased Going Rogue as an expansion as opposed to getting 'free' access to it as part of VIP after the game went F2P then you should have access to it still as well.

If you really did have as much paid game time as you say and you really did buy Going Rogue but don't have access to IOs or the GR content then you should contact support since you really should have access to both of those things.
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 11:58AM Sente said

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@grendel69

If you have been a customer for 7 years and bought Going Rogue then you should have access to everything except the incarnate content and any paid for content they released after the Freedom conversion.

7 years is more than enough to get yourself enough Paragon rewards up to top tier, which would include inventions access and lots of that. If you have bought Going Rogue then you would have acess to Going Rogue also.

Have you used all Paragon Rewards tokens to fill up the tiers?
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 1:58AM Furdinand said

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CoH/CoV had so much content when I stopped playing years ago, that anyone that gets through it all without feeling inclined to buy anything or pay for more content isn't a real customer. Giving them more free content is just throwing good money after bad. Some games could use more free content because the base game was pretty thin to begin with (like DCUO), CoH isn't one of them.
The "get players at all costs, even free ones" mentality is going to result in some MMOs becoming updated Pets.com parables. Investors looking at "concurrent users' or "new accounts" over revenue, revenue, and revenue are fools.

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 9:47AM grendel69 said

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Hmm, ok. These replies have me thinking "user error". I will log into my account and see if I have neglected to do something with the tokens. If it is necessary to apply the tokens (or claim?) like vet rewards then the problem is easy enough to resolve. Thanks for the information!

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 12:51PM starka1 said

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@grendel69

Yes, you need to slot your reward tokens. Just having the tokens does nothing until you apply them. Have fun. :)
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Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 10:22AM Deliverator said

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I don't get the disconnect here. Of course you don't get access to the entire game when you switch from subbed to free.

If you stop subbing WoW do you still access all of the same stuff you could when you were subbed? No. You paid for WoW, you paid for the expansions, you paid for your sparkle pony, but if you don't sub, you don't play.

F2P schlockifying the game aside, you're lucky to be able to access any part of the game at all without paying. It's completely unreasonable to expect to access that content for free.

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 3:19PM Daemodand said

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CoH was the only game on NCsoft's roster that was up in revenue in the most recent quarter. Freedom's effect on the game's revenue wasn't huge, though: up only 18% (compare to Star Trek Online or DCUO).

I think the game would benefit from letting go of the "we must get VIP subscribers" mentality and instead go with a true f2p model such as Lineage 2 is doing. High prices and strange limitations on free and premium players are holding the game back from where it could be revenue-wise.

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