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Posted: Feb 15th 2012 10:06AM Valius said

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That sounds like a rather desperate ploy...

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 6:09PM Fakeassname said

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@Valius

in a way it is, but that's not exactly a bad thing either ...

webzen games are PvP centric, especially so in the form of mass combat. I can't remember if SUN has got a focus castle sieges (and the like), but I know that in Archlord castle siege-ing is about 90% of the game's focus.

both archlord and SUN are kinda old at this point, archlord going well past the "kinda" stage, and both games have been repossessed from other flailing localization publishers (Codemasters for Archlord, Ijji for SUN) that had been hosting the games for an extended period of time; that never turns out well for communities, even if Webzen did import many of the accounts when they took the games back.

anyway, yes the games are both in a state of decline, and this is a desperate ploy ... but both games are dependent on high player attendance to mass PvP combat, not theme parking the story line and killing 10 rats. giving out pre-leveled characters is about getting people into the daily/weekly wars, not skipping core content (since the wars ARE the game's core content).

besides, you could probably get a toon up to these levels with about 3 days to a week of power leveling .... which the community all but forces new players into with the end goal of getting more people "war capable".
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Posted: Feb 15th 2012 10:12AM Samcha said

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I am befuddled by this. Isn't the whole point of progressing to give you an opportunity to play through game. It seems sort of like a slap in the face to me. Oh well, to each their own I guess.

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 11:55AM bobfish said

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@Samcha

Well, I don't know about the other two games, but ArchLord's level cap is 99, so a level 60 character is pathetically weak compared to those near the cap.

It is clearly some ploy to get people hooked, but you won't be able to compete competitively with a level 60 character, you need a good two or three months of grinding to get up to competitive levels.
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Posted: Mar 15th 2012 4:47PM HayabussaRider said

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@bobfish actually archlords lvl cap is 120
secondly to whoever else mentioned that codemasters was failing with archlord was wrong the failings were due to NHN not giving codemasters the updates and fixes for bugs which were necessary to keep the game running. and NHN saying they do not want to renew the contract with codemasters as NHN bought webzen so they now had their ouwn publisher.

Webzen is a hack company anwyays with poor customer support poor server security and so on
if ya want to know more of the problems with webzen check this out http://my.mmosite.com/b27bc18ee734ebd4a9ac09571d652942/blog/item/647de4ce3346971a86743909804c1be5.html
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Posted: Feb 15th 2012 10:20AM (Unverified) said

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SUN is such a good game. Thank goodness their forums are back up. Maybe it is time to revisit my toons...or grab new ones. Love the shiny armor!

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 10:20AM (Unverified) said

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SUN is such and underated game! looks like its time to visit there again!

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 12:59PM (Unverified) said

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I agree. I don't find any people that even know of this game (advertising was never big for this game...ever). I've been playing off and on since the open Beta with iJJi. I got tired of contiuosly being a lvl 20 in GW and started playing this game (lvl cap at the moment is 150) and will go back to it faster than going back to GW. Except for some grinding at higher levels and lackluster GMs it still can be a fun game. IMO the graphics, eventhough 4 years or so old (Korean version came out in 2006...I think) are better than most newer games and still runs really smoothly on even older computers. If you do play make sure you have some friends that start with you, as finding parties can be a pain at times.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2012 10:22AM Nucleon said

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Wow... that's a new low.

"Hey all you fans that worked hard to build your character, here's some contest winner who gets it for free!"

I mean if you got a maxed out character to start, how long would you even play for? What would you do? Sounds like a 1-way ticket to boredom.

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 10:51AM smartstep said

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@Nucleon

Totally agreed.

My reaction to this Webzen scheme was laughter mixed with facepalms.

Well desperate move.

F2P / Freemium market is getting very tight.

ALOT of titles - and amount of total amount of people playing mmorpg's is limited.

So my crystal ball tell me of more desperate measures like this + more lottery & advantage selling in cash shop in future on western f2p / freemium market.

Some titles will close up and even more will be on skeletons crew with low-quality updates.

Market is just oversaturated.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2012 11:17AM MMOaddict said

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SUN is the only game in this list worth trying this on. The point of giving a high level character is probably due to the fact that mabye it's a bit long of a grind and people give up long before hitting cap. Giving us a taste of high level character could be a good draw to bring people back. I know it's working on me as now I'm wanting to play the game again.

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 11:23AM Irem said

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Will a few enterprising companies please step up and create a slew of games with no levels, no gear progression, and no story, where the entire point is to log in pre-geared and go straight to PvE or PvP fighting, so that we can stop wondering when existing games that try to call themselves RPGs will drop this kind of thing in as an "option"? Whee, our game sucks, pay to skip it!

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 11:56AM (Unverified) said

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My Ideal MMO:

Star Wars Galaxies Class system

Eve politics and pvp world control

DAoC 's Validity of crafted armor and attachment system but with TOR's crafting and companion system

EQ2 Raids

WoW 's "ease of use" player enhancements like dungeon finders etc.

Mix of EQ2/WoW guild systems

SWG Player Housing / Player Cities.

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 12:00PM dajones said

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so how do I get the free stuff.? . I stopped playing Archlord years ago because of the server changes where they deleted my high level character.. (it made me mad so I quit.\) do I just start a new account?

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 1:14PM dajones said

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p.s. actually archlord levels to 120 now.

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 1:19PM (Unverified) said

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I agree, the shine on the armor is awesome!!

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 1:45PM Daeths said

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So its a screen shot competition for people already playing the game? Meh, would tried SUN again if i could get a high lvl char, but im not going to bother to download it again, create a new account and hero and try and get a good screenie.

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 1:58PM dudes said

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Bound to happen sooner or later. 'We make end level games why don't we provide end game from the start for a fixed fee?.' Business is business kaching. I'm waiting for WoW and SWTOR to catchup.

Posted: Feb 15th 2012 6:13PM Fakeassname said

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@dudes

what part of "free" did you decide to not read?

they are giving out "free" high level characters (more like mid level, but the point is that you skip the entry level BS and get right to the PvP content) for a month.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2012 2:06PM dajones said

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Ok I've been holding off on saying anything about this for months now... but I've finally had enough. Why is it that massively always links to it'self instead of to a stories source? I'm tired of clicking on the links so lovingly offered only to find they link to the same article I just read at massively....



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