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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 4:30PM Anatidae said

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@Vundal "example that T1 armor would look different on all the races" is that like a full suit of chain on a male avatar and a bikini on a female?

I am waiting to see on Tera. Although, this game really hits the pedophile market right on the noise with the little girl avatars.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 6:49PM (Unverified) said

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@Vundal
Then the artists need to not sign the contracts that state that the work they do belongs to the company and just not do the job.

There is never any excuse to violate a contract in the manner that they did. They knew what they did was not only wrong but illegal and did it anyway.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 11:45PM Vundal said

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@Anatidae no i ment literally differnet look for all armor. Baraka are full armored with more of a realistic flare, while Castanic armor is very flashy and sexual ( i think its actually in thier lore they are sexy and they know it :P )

The elin are weird, and not everyone will like it, but Little girls with huge weapons is a very eastern appeal and i can see why. i almost made a Slayer (2h sword user) elin simple because the animations for them are awesome.. i dont find it offensive at all to be honest, and i showed it to my sister (16) and she said she really loved the idea of playing a chick with a huge weapon.
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Posted: Feb 15th 2012 3:03PM Borick said

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@(Unverified) Don't say never.

As with any rebellion, it's justified when you WIN. If a company leverages a contract to stifle a positive innovation, and someone manages to get that product to market successfully in SPITE of the contract... well, that's what 'the calf follows the cow' doctrine is for.

The law is the law, but justice is something else entirely, and the law does take that into account.

In this case a crime was committed. I don't deny that, although calling the people 'thieves' is a bit harsh. Why would you make a moral judgement of an individual for following the same SOP that corporations take with each other?
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 3:24PM Zapamapflapa said

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I figure that it is hard to say Tera is objectifying women when the males have armor that is just as skimpy. At that point it just becomes the character and art design of the game. I think the effect is more exaggerated in Guild Wars where most of the men have bulky armor sets while the women are left in the cold with their metal bikinis. While the females in Tera may have clothing that is similarly... averse to combat (and BOY is it), I think the armor on my male Castanic slayer is just as impractical.

That said, I am really looking forward to the launch. The beta really left me wanting more after I starting taking on BAMs and dungeons with groups of players.

Posted: Feb 14th 2012 3:37PM Irem said

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@Zapamapflapa
The males don't have armor that is "just as" skimpy, and not on the same level. The Castanic males in particular are sexualized far more than the average MMO male, and believe me, I was glad to see it and wish it happened far more. But the fact that some male models have open shirts and hip-riding pants does not make male characters overall in this game equally sexualized.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 4:35PM (Unverified) said

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@Zapamapflapa

The males might were skimpy things too, but they have something the women dont. The ability to choose their clothing. They can wear skimpy stuff, or wear full bodied armor that covers up everything. The females only have skimpy.

I wish I had that choice to be able to pick what my female toons can wear. They dont, so Im only going to play males this time.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 3:25PM Derekisazombie said

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Played the weekend beta to, The game was incredible. Love the boss fights a lot.

Lots of people were really cool in the beta, and because of IGN there were a lot of trolls. But what game doesn't see them these days.

People need to check out Tera and fight bosses around level 20 before they judge this game. Which obviously hasnt been happening much.

EME has my pre-order. Bring on more Tera!

Posted: Feb 14th 2012 3:25PM Caskio said

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"Let's not forget the lingering IP controversy, which is likely going to cost En Masse some customers. Many fans have rightly surmised that the company's decision to block all foreign IP addresses will only deter legitimate overseas customers who wish to play on the American servers. The pirates, gold-farmers, and other unsavory types whom the policy is designed to obstruct can circumvent such measures with relative ease."

If the gold farmers can do it, so can legitimate customers. Typically done with a proxy.

I did play int he CBT1 and have the game rpeordered. Can't wait for Open Beta. There won't be a char wipe between OB and Release.

Posted: Feb 14th 2012 3:26PM Vanir said

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Game needs to go away. Hopefully NCSoft will win the suit against Tera and this abomination will never harm real MMO players here in the states.

Posted: Feb 14th 2012 3:28PM Tom in VA said

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A good read, Jef. Thanks.

I am very cool toward this game for a number of reasons. You accurately described several of them. I need to read more reviews by players, though, to make a fair determination about the actual game.

I have wondered myself, however, if this is a case where a game is actually misrepresenting itself, if TERA's actually a much classier and better game than the general tawdriness of its own advertising and public face suggest?

I have heard nothing but praise for TERA's innovative combat systems and other good features, but, frankly, I'm very put off by the image En Masse seems to be pushing. It seems very self-defeating, on their part.

Posted: Feb 14th 2012 3:38PM Zapamapflapa said

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@Tom in VA

I think Massively had another article a little earlier today that shared two videos that a guy posted from the beta about how close and ranged combat worked. He sounded like he knew what he was talking about and touted Tera's combat mechanics. Give them a view and you might find yourself a little more intrigued with the game.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 3:30PM chum said

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Ruttman? He is so gonna get you.

Posted: Feb 14th 2012 3:32PM Zyrusticae said

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I just don't get the Elin hate. I just don't.

I guess I am just incredibly and unusually tolerant of these kinds of things. It still boggles my mind that there's apparently a lot of folks that actually get squicked by something like that. I get the whole "they're obviously kids" argument, but it just doesn't click in my mind.

I'm just happy they're there. What isn't there to love about a cute thing lugging around axes as big as herself and slicing people to ribbons?

(Hah, but you know, if people can get desensitized to violence, then...)

Posted: Feb 14th 2012 3:48PM ChongShin said

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I don't care about the Elin either, and I don't see what the fuss is about. Personally I think that people are far too uptight over some virtual doll.

Anyone know what the monthly subscription fee is going to be? There have been rumors that it's going to be fairly high, which is what would kill it for me.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 3:54PM Stall said

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@ChongShin Confirmed for the standard 15 dollars a month, and it's about 8 if you pay for a year at once. That stupid rumor was more garbage that occured when people had NO clue what they were talking about, and straightly converting the cost in Yen to USD.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 4:02PM ChongShin said

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@Stall I see, that's very helpful Stall. Thanks for the info. I may get the game then, at least to see what it's like for the first month. I've been curious about Tera for quite awhile now.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 3:35PM Plastic said

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I find developers and artists illegally taking shelved work that they themselves created and breathing new life into it in the form of an enjoyable game to be much less morally reprehensible than the legal actions of publishers like EA who buy out talent only to let it wither away and die. It may not be right, but on the list of unethical industry practices, at least it's relatively consumer-friendly.

Posted: Feb 14th 2012 5:03PM Space Cobra said

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@Plastic

While I do agree with you, we have to consider the other side of things. It is easy to take shots at the "big dog" (EA, Bill Gates) and they may be worth taking pot-shots at. But what about NCSoft? They are big, but not EA big. What if this was a private/single funder of a project who provided money in "good faith" and has plans for such code in the future, but just not at the present time?

In such work things, many times you are under such a contract. If I had a company that made a prototype car that looked cool and I owned the car and their labor and then I decided to mothball it or even blow it up, what would happen if the workers stole such a car? What if the car killed my family in an accident and I just wanted to bury that memory? Sure, you may say I am jealous and should let such a creation on "the rest of the world" but I paid for the workers time/effort in good faith. Should I get back the wages I paid for? Should I sue them for more? Remember, while they put half of the resources in it (time/labor) I put in the money and I am not seeing a dime from that.

It's more complicated than many think, although I agree it can be a shame to let such code rot and a worker would feel invalidated for spending such time. Perhaps the workers shoul just have gotten money together and outright BUY the code from the original owner in the first place.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 6:13PM Plastic said

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@Space Cobra

Just to reiterate/clarify my original statement, I do think that what they did was wrong from both a legal and ethical standpoint, and in your hypothetical, I'd obviously be even more disapproving. My point is simply that the legality of something does not, in my view, necessarily dictate it's morality, and in this very specific case, I find the ultimate harm of what Bluehole did to be substantially less than the harm wreaked by companies like EA on a daily basis.
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