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Posted: Feb 13th 2012 5:06PM (Unverified) said

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So is the surgery over yet? I have not kept up with it and wanna know how it's doing (doesn't sound very good) I'm bored of TOR so wouldn't mind some FFXIV myself.

Posted: Feb 13th 2012 5:41PM pcgneurotic said

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Me too, I'm just waiting for them to drop the Big 2.0 before I finally, finally give this bugger a try.

Posted: Feb 13th 2012 6:08PM Fakeassname said

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every time I read something about this game I have to stop and shake my head ....

this whole fiasco has to have been the troll of the century; the game was incomplete, it's true, but the second SE opened the game's development to the general public (in the form of an internet survey no less) was when the "doom" cloud actually rolled in.

but it's kinda to be expected, SE has proven (on multiple occasions) that they know jack shit about PC gaming so it's not surprising that they would (A) release the game in a state that the PC market would revolt at (most every PC game is released broken, but it's HOW it's broken that matters) and (B) actually take the input of irate gamers seriously and act upon it.

...ultimately all they have done is capitulate in mutilating the game to the specifications of consumers who were never & will never return to the game no matter what!

the ire of the MMO gamer is absolute once earned; a major part of why SOE never rolled back any of the CU content is 'cause none of the irate players would have come back even if they had.

Posted: Feb 14th 2012 9:50AM Rialle said

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@Fakeassname

While your stance is entirely understandable, it assumes the following:

1. Games that had a "good" launch will continue to remain good.
2. Games that had a "poor" launch will continue to remain bad.

I picked up a copy of the game for cheap and played a bit when 1.20 hit. While there were obvious flaws, at that point the game wasn't nearly as bad as I had expected it would be.

Was it worth a sub? Not really when I have RIFT, but I would rather play FFXIV again than ever touch anything by Perfect World or most of the F2P garbage clones that are currently out there.

That being said, FFXIV has some things going for it that most modern MMOs lack:

1. Deeper crafting.
2. It doesn't treat you like an imbecile by holding your hand.
3. An actual feeling you earned every piece of gear you get.
4. It isn't just another WoW clone.

Of course, the quest design, zone design, etc. are awful and the controls are a bit wonky for a PC game.

I will be absolutely willing to check out 2.0 when it arrives. However, my concern is that while it may improve the controls and so forth, they will in the process just turn it into a WoW clone and eliminate the things which set it apart.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 9:38PM Fakeassname said

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@Rialle

*whoosh*

that is the sound of my point being missed ...

to clarify: I LIKED FFXIV.

that is until the "community" got it's hands on it and SE blindly wrecked the games distinctive elements (that would have made the game a standout if (A) everyone wasn't expecting FFXI-2 (B) they had been in better shape when the game shipped) trying to win back vengeful consumers.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2012 6:37PM XCman said

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The dip in the population on FFXIV servers need to have a XIV server merge to take place. I just don't think now is the best of time.

For starters if they are going to go ahead to do server optimization and structure, replace the current game maps and update the game engine for better graphics. It would be better to do the server merges at this time.

These changes are all changes that would require long outages and maintenance to take place. If your going to inconvenience the customer, do so the least amount of times as possible. Lumping it with upgrading server architecture just makes sense. Update the servers and do the server merges all at the same time. It would be the best time to do it. Not now when they are still trickling out updates in game mechanic changes in preparation for the huge graphics/map/server tech overhaul!

Servers need to be merged anyway, so many ppl have left that you can almost login do quest and log off in an hours time and never see anybody online! Sad state for an MMO to get in. I know there is ppl there, they are just all hanging out at the towns.

The game is shaping up to something good, especially when the release the new jobs for the current classes :)

Posted: Feb 13th 2012 6:43PM (Unverified) said

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There are way too many GOOD mmo's out there to bother giving the goof-up's a second try when they scramble to fix their mistakes. I'll be honest. If something fails at the starting gate (or even Beta) I rarely ever go back to give it another shot. There would have to be absolutely nothing new in the MMO market in order for me to contemplate giving a bad MMO another fair shot at my money, after they realized they "dun goofed". There are plenty of good mainstream MMO's and small good Indie MMO companies struggling to stay afloat out there that I feel are more deserving of a subscription, and thats where my money and time goes. I support good games with a subscription. I refuse bad games by giving them nothing. Allods failed with their cash shop greediness at the starting gate. Warhammer failed with terrible physics, class mechanics, glitches galore, and a game that wasn't really in touch with what its fans had hoped for (IMO). And well, we all know the story with FFXIV... and I won't be going back unless I hear some reports of it being the next best thing since sliced bread. Which... i doubt will happen.

Posted: Feb 13th 2012 6:56PM Fakeassname said

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@(Unverified)

"the ire of the MMO gamer is absolute once earned"

I'm the same way, as much as I'd like to pretend that I'm more tolerant and reasonable, there are just so many MMOs out there that once I get burned by something it's all but given that I won't be going back.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2012 7:25PM Braiks said

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@(Unverified) I know very few GOOD MMOs that didn't fuck up their launch tbh. So if I did what you say then I would be MMOless right now.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2012 9:58PM TortoiseCan said

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I feel the same way - although Age of Conan is probably an exception. That game flopped upon release, but now it's actually a very awesome game.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 9:41PM Fakeassname said

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@TortoiseCan

flops that stick out the mass market "it's not WoW" shit storm almost unfailingly earn themselves the "cult classic" and go on to make their parent company rich and famous.

...... at one point in time FFXI was market failure.
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 9:41PM Fakeassname said

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@Fakeassname

it was supposed to be: "cult classic title"
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Posted: Feb 13th 2012 6:47PM JohnD212 said

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I still have this on my hard drive but won't pay a penny for it until they drop the stupid price you pay just to have an account then they add on an additional fee - per month - for each character you create. Talk about greedy. I should be able to pay $15 a month and create all the characters I want. THey want to charge us like $10 then $3 per character slot. That is just wrong.

I also don't want to deal with no recipes, no recipe books and no indication of how to learn a recipe. You want to ALT+TAB out to look for a recipe online??? LOL...good luck..the game is designed to log you out if you even attempt to ALT TAB.

The game just punishes those who want to enjoy it. I haven't seen enough changes that fix what was broken in the first place and to be honest...I don't want to keep holding out hope.

Posted: Feb 13th 2012 6:53PM Maseno said

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F2P will set you free...

Posted: Feb 13th 2012 10:22PM Raikulxox said

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Am I the only one enjoying myself with the game?

Posted: Feb 14th 2012 12:06AM odericko said

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@Raikulxox Nope, I just came back last patch and finding myself to enjoy it. The markets could still use some work, but that's my only big gripe with the game (besides more content of course, which any game gets with time).
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Posted: Feb 14th 2012 1:57PM odericko said

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@odericko I was downvoted for liking a game? Who knew Massively hated on others interests.
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Posted: Feb 13th 2012 11:52PM Crapplebag said

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I'm thinking about re-activating my account. It sounds like there are some good changes coming in 1.21 and even better improvements in 2.0. I doubt 2.0 is going to be the game changer some people think, but it will probably make the current fans happy at least. For most people, i'm pretty sure if you disliked the core mechanics of the game last year you will probably always dislike this game. Like FFIX, it is it's own peculiar beast and you either embrace it or turn your back. But you have to admit they are listening to their fans and postponing the server merges to reassess the finer details is a good thing.

Posted: Feb 14th 2012 12:56AM (Unverified) said

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They released new details on the merge via forums. They will merge world A + B to create a new server. They will allow individuals to apply for a world transfer if they want to choose a specific server to play on. There will be a total of 10 servers, all renamed after legendary weapons in the FF series.

This merge will allow Link Shells (guilds) to carry on to the new server w/o losing members, and players to retain their friends lists. It keeps the built community together.

Those players who choose to apply for a transfer to a new world will not retain their Link Shell or friends list.

Ver 1.21 is right around the corner should release by the end of next week. Many eagerly awaited changes are due with this update. This also brings us one step closer to realization of ver 2.0

Posted: Feb 14th 2012 9:37PM Fakeassname said

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*whoosh*

that is the sound of my point being missed ...

to clarify: I LIKED FFXIV.

that is until the "community" got it's hands on it and SE blindly wrecked the games distinctive elements (that would have made the game a standout if (A) everyone wasn't expecting FFXI-2 (B) they had been in better shape when the game shipped) trying to win back vengeful consumers.
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