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Posted: Feb 12th 2012 12:13PM stealthrider said

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A couple of corrections:

--Nautilus pulls himself to the anchor *and the enemy to himself*. The enemy is pulled toward Nautilus and Nautilus is pulled toward the enemy, with the two meeting at some point in the middle.

--Vlad's early game power is not being nerfed; his late game power is. The nerf is primarily to his lategame damage potential through his ultimate's damage amplification.

Posted: Feb 12th 2012 12:22PM Scorpio707 said

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I'm getting tired of seeing Sona repeatedly nerfed. I mean good lord has no one seen the BS Soraka can pull? There's too few supports in this game and it seems like everythings just been thrown onto Soraka rather than say Karma or Sona. Thats how i'm seeing it atleast. Sona taking three ults in the face then healing almost back to full and running under her tower.

Posted: Feb 12th 2012 7:28PM smartstep said

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@Scorpio707

Cause too much people still play Sona and not buy other / new champs according to Riot.

Get used to repeated nerfs for some champions (then after some longer time they will be buffed again) and buffs to others ,etc

After all Riot earn money from selling new champions and runes for them so that will never cease. Controversial buffs & nerfs choices I mean ,cause that is what drive cash shop sales.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2012 9:40PM Icemasta said

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@Scorpio707
The problem with Sona is that she has:
1) Auras that contribute greatly to team fights and laning phase
2) Good heal, that also provides armor as a passive.
3) Incredible Frontal AoE stun with huge range.
4) The most powerful poke ability in the game with her Q+Passive
Now the reason why she's so good is because she's a jack of all trades. She doesn't heal nearly as much as Soraka, but meanwhile she can create opening with her ult, inflict stupid damage with her poke burst (Q+Passive at level 1 will deal about 200 damage, already a third of your health), while she remains safe to do so.

Soraka has one great burst heal, a good harass (Q), stupid mana sustain (E, that is getting nerfed so Soraka will not be receiving mana from using it anymore, nor can she cast it on herself). Powerful silence with her E as well, and AoE heal with ult. Nothing compares to what a good Sona brings to the table an this brings me to my next point

It's all in the skill cap here. Soraka is easy to learn and easy to master, they isn't much you can do other than twitch heals and silences and a well timed global heal. On the other hand, Sona is easy-medium to learn but very, very hard to master. Never missing a poke while avoiding taking cs, timing heals in team fights, using movement speed buffs at the right time (IE, not when everyone is engaged, there are always some small back and forths in a single fight, you have to time your E with those small gaps to increase your damage/decrease incoming damage). So they are nerfing her to she'll be more balanced on a high skill level compared to other champions.

That's why people often ask to nerf Soraka or buff Alistar or taric or any other support. That's because they can see a Soraka in full potential quite often due to how easy she is to play compared to mediocre Sona.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2012 12:23PM Macabre 13 said

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Nautilus will be tons of fun to play. I just hope his numbers make him a viable pick. I'm worried about how his move speed will play out (300ms on a tank, the lowest possible ms Riot will allow? Ouch!), but hopefully his Q makes up for it, as is intended.

Sona will always be in a bad spot (either OP or UP), much like Vladimir, unfortunately. This is due to their core kit concepts, and as such will always be riding the balance rollercoaster. On-call AoE hard CC lockdown is an ability generally reserved to tanks, as it should be. The fact that a strong healer support (who also harasses in lane like a boss) has this tool as an ultimate is, frankly, absurd. Even Riot recognizes that Sona's kit was a mistake, like Vladimir's, but they also admit that it's too late to change it now.

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Posted: Feb 12th 2012 12:34PM Maseno said

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I stopped playing this game when Atma's Impaler was introduced. Don't see myself coming back until it is removed or severely nerfed either.

When you have AP champs running fratmonger builds, you know something is wrong.

Posted: Feb 12th 2012 12:41PM (Unverified) said

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Disappointing that most of the nerfs that they seem to do is against the AP heroes. From my playing experience it seems that the AD ones are the ones most out of balance in the game due to how easy it is to stack damage, crit, and attack speed for them compared to the AP heroes. Coupled with some lifestealing they can become extremely dominant in game relatively effortlessly. IDK, I just can rarely/if at all recall fighting an OP Vlad or Sona but can easily recall Tryndamere, Vayne, etc crushing with little effort.

Posted: Feb 12th 2012 1:24PM oddshrub said

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@(Unverified) ad's are carries. If you're allowed to sit in the back you'll do tons of damage.

But you'll usually just get focused and die pretty instantly. :p
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Posted: Feb 12th 2012 2:35PM Wensbane said

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Here's the main issue with this patch, as well as several other recent ones, as I perceive it: RIOT wants, above all else, to obliterate the current metagame.

That's fine, I suppose. It's their game after all, and if they're not happy with it, they are free to change it as they please (at their own peril, of course, but that's a discussion for another day).

The problem comes from the fact that the community, as a whole, seems unwilling to change the one formula they have grown so deeply accustomed to: the 1-1-2+Jungler tactic, with a bottom lane formed by a null/extremely low-farm support, "feeding" and protecting his/her ranged ad carry (the team's "quarterback", if you will).

So, what's happening right now, is that a lot of support players are simply giving up on the game altogether. And with good reason. They feel unappreciated. Almost obsolete, even.

RIOT certainly doesn't want to release any support characters that actually fit the current metagame, so they keep releasing AP carries (you know, those guys who always shout "ME MID!" during champion selection) disguised as actual support champions.

Meanwhile, they keep nerfing the very few pure supports already in the game.
They do this by 1. great reducing their sustainability and 2. reducing the overall effectiveness of their kit without items, in an attempt to force them to farm, in order to scale well into mid/late game (like everyone else, to be perfectly honest).

In theory, I have to admit, it all sounds like a great idea. More people would play the support role if they could actually take some minions for themselves. It would make the whole affair far more entertaining, for sure.

The problem comes from the fact that, any support player (and I consider myself one) currently trying to take "creeps" away from his carry will get insulted, ignored, left to die ("you take farm, I AFK now!") and quite possibly reported -- not that the Tribunal would punish someone for that, but still, it's never a good thing to see your own name in there, next to the actual griefers.

But I guess my point is this: if they're going to "transform" the support champions into something else entirely, they need to do it in one fell swoop!
As it stands, we're forced to suffer slowly, while our role is gradually phased out. At least until the metagame finally shifts, once all the champions have been turned into bruisers, nukers and carries...

Posted: Feb 12th 2012 3:23PM Maseno said

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@Wensbane

The current meta is tanky dps. They are doing absolutely nothing to solve this issue.
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Posted: Feb 12th 2012 9:20PM Adeptus Enginus said

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@Maseno Tanky DPS is only the meta in low ELOs.

I do find it funny how everyone is going up in arms about how Sona is getting a nerf, and completely disregarding the fact that Soraka is going to be COMPLETELY USELESS.

This patch bodes ill for me, as my favorite characters are Sona Soraka and Leona...
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Posted: Feb 13th 2012 10:03AM Archintyeron said

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Farewell, Soraka... =(

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