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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 11:59AM Pasha said

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Compared to others (Bioware for example) TRION is extremely successful and professional team. I wish they had any interesting/sci-fi game universe/license in their hands - like SWTOR. Elves-dwarves entourage is too common already.

Posted: Feb 9th 2012 12:11PM Irem said

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I want to hear more about Defiance for exactly that reason. As much as I like RIFT, a lot of the lore seems phoned-in to me.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 12:20PM hami83 said

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@Pasha Well with the sourcestone technology, it COULD get steampunk-ish if Trion wanted to.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 7:04PM Tassels said

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@hami83 Well, Rift isn't really a strict Fantasy setting. There are a ton of sci-fi elements to it. Hell, the Defiant Ascended travel using a time machine at like level 7.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 12:09PM Irem said

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Buttler doesn't say that Trion innovates in so many ways, he says that they do a lot of things right, which is true. Shanda is arguably pretty innovative in terms of how they do business; they're very good at reaching out to overseas companies and growing their stable of games. As for the kind of sexy game-related innovation players are generally more concerned about, check out Age of Wulin, which is being developed as part of their partnership with Snail Games.

Posted: Feb 9th 2012 12:20PM Greymantle said

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Rift has been like every other MMO for my immediate family lately. There is six of us that play together. My two brothers and one of their wives and my wife and her son. We all joined Rift and all of us left between one to three months.

It was a polished game. The issue was only two starting areas that shared the same areas as you level for both factions for the most part didn't leave much room to play alts.

The combat was fine but the crafting was lacking. Most of us like more to do then just combat all the time. Anyway I wish it the best of luck. :)

Posted: Feb 9th 2012 12:42PM (Unverified) said

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@Greymantle Being an alt-aholic myself, I have to agree that being forced to repeat content to level alts was discouraging. I wish they would either use XP boosts, like EQ2, or something like auto-level, from DAoC, to make the journey less painful the second -- or third -- time around. Of course, adding more levelling content would be great too!
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 12:35PM (Unverified) said

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(not to anyone, in particular)

My interpretation of RIFT's core conflicts between factions:
Divine Faith vs. Faith in Technology, Believers vs. Heretics, Dogma vs Free-thinking, Obedience vs Hubris. It is not simply: Good vs. Evil. Each faction has both positive and negative aspects that appeal and repulse modern sensibilities.

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Remember when people laughed with even the mention that RIFT could be the first real threat to WoW's dominance? If they do well in China, we shall see who gets the last laugh. SWTOR would probably do well there too but the retooling required for voice-overs and other language support will be daunting plus I am not sure if the Star Wars IP is nearly as popular there as it in in Western countries. GW2 on the other hand. . . .

I do not play RIFT today but wish them luck! :-)

Posted: Feb 9th 2012 12:39PM Vandal said

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It will be interesting to see how they do in China. They very well could compete more evenly with ActiBlizz there depending on how well they work with the autocratic, nepotistic bureaucracy there.

Companies drool when their accountants show them the projected sales number but they're going to find some unique issues dealing with Chinese companies (aka the government)

Posted: Feb 9th 2012 12:49PM Gaugamela said

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This is a clear signal that Trion is DOOMED!!! DOOMED I tellz ya!
They're desperate for more money because they are bleeding subs left and right and that's why they went to China.
Oh, and they're going f2p tomorrow!

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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 2:30PM Utakata said

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...unfortunately your facts are misleading:

http://www.riftjunkies.com/2012/01/12/shards-consolidating/

This was talked about here at Massively too as they also reported RIFT converting their low population servers to free trail servers, while booting all it's paying customers off of it and moving them to better populated servers. Thus, this is not server merging, but rather population consolidating.

Furthermore, I believe RIFT has a free server transfer mechanic, which is unique to that game. The unfortunate downside is that it gives players the option of easily abandoning low pop servers for better populated servers, further creatng a population glut for that server - a vicious cycle.

Keep in mind that WoW also had low population server issues during its 5 years of substancial subscrition growth (yes, how did that happen?), which Blizz had to at numerous times give larger servers the option of freely migrate to the problematic population servers. Of coarse the cross server LFG tool and BG's put has mostly put an end to that issue.......but I digress

As you can see low population servers and RIFT's server consolidating may have nothing to do with the game's overall health, but rather a unintended result of it's liberal server transfer mechanics. And I'm sure RIFT is slowly on the down tick, however you may want to provide actual evidence this is happening, and not introduce your arguement with troll speak and misleading articles.

Posted: Feb 9th 2012 2:39PM Luluna said

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@(Unverified) Gotta agree that Rift is really great at bring new contents and engaging players. It has done many things right where the most famous MMOs today failed to do.

Rift is the only MMO that I would sub had I not been so burnout from fantasy MMO, or simply MMO.

Posted: Feb 9th 2012 6:18PM DancingCow said

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The Red Door program sounds very promising.

TRION's new server tech offers amazing potential for sandbox style MMOs. And this removes the cost of developing the platform.

This could be one of the best developments in the industry to date.

Posted: Feb 9th 2012 7:12PM (Unverified) said

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@(Unverified) : dropping from a million to half a million nearly a year later is a massive success in the current subscription MMO landscape.

All of the other "big" releases have dropped from a million-ish at peak to a LOT less than Rift currently has.

I don't believe anyone else has done that well post-WoW. Obviously SW:TOR will be hoping to do so, but even if they do, that would still make Rift the second most successful release since WoW.

Posted: Feb 9th 2012 7:51PM (Unverified) said

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So how big is Trions cut of the gold farming profits...

Posted: Feb 10th 2012 2:49AM TortoiseCan said

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Doesn't Vanguard currently have like 300 active players and is still maintained as a monthly payment game? If I made a game and had 300 people paying 15 dollars a month to play it, I'd be making a better living than most people.

As long as a studio manages it's resources to coincide with it's income, then it will never lose money. The idea that Rift is going to die and/or go F2P as a sign of failure is stupid. It's already got a big enough population that Trion could lay off all of their employees and milk subscription fees for years with no updates and make more money in that timespan than every single person posting on this website put together.

Posted: Feb 10th 2012 4:04AM real65rcncom said

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NA servers left; count them and observe their numbers:

http://www.riftstatus.net/shards/na/stats

Posted: Feb 10th 2012 4:30AM Rialle said

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@real65rcncom

Most servers are on a population uptick now that 1-20 are free.

However something interesting I'm seeing is the re-emergence of mid-level characters. So are some of these people enjoying the game and subbing after 20? Too early to tell, but the trial strategy may be playing in Trion's favor.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2012 6:11AM avaloner said

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@real65rcncom Was waiting for you to come to the discussion and try to down play the news by adding something irrelavent to the discussion. I'm begining to think your wift left you for someone and TRION and thats when you hate them so much.
To think you used to complain about Ren54 and Puremallace... You seem little better then them really.
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Posted: Feb 10th 2012 5:06AM (Unverified) said

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What i find funny is this. Peeps in this company came from blizzard ( a couple did) they make a deal with China and China loves them. Blizzard tried to enter China and got demoted down to a previous expansion after years of waiting to even get a yes answer LOL speaks volumes about the Devs of blizzard as opposed to those who they fired or had quit in the past because of their bad business practices. And now they are losing another 100k subs LOL more to come.

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