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Posted: Feb 8th 2012 7:22PM (Unverified) said

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You had me at future batman. Seriously, go watch the CG movies. Future batman is amazing. Depending on how it plays out, i'll give it another shot, but i'm happy with Rift again while i give SWTOR a while to shape up some more.

If you haven't tried it, DCUO is a pretty good MMO and def worth a try.

Posted: Feb 9th 2012 9:31AM Vic Fontaine said

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If future Batman doesn't mean Terry McGuiness I'll always be dissapointed on some level.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2012 7:44PM (Unverified) said

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A quote from the PC Gamer article's author makes it sound like there are three raids but they are separated into three difficulty tiers so that even fresh 30's can see the content. Or that there is one raid that has three difficulty settings like WoW's latest raid does.

Josh Augustine of PC Gamer says:
12:18am February 9 2012

@Aerius I just got out of a 3-hour demo on all the new content coming in the expansion. I can't talk about it yet, but the content is dispersed across all 3 tiers of difficulty, including fresh 30s.

Posted: Feb 8th 2012 7:45PM Protoavis said

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I dunno if I would call a dlc an update since as only those who pay can access it...

Posted: Feb 8th 2012 7:55PM kimowar said

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@Protoavis
so pay.......
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Posted: Feb 8th 2012 8:34PM Protoavis said

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@kimowar

That's irrelevant to the discussion, thanks for missing the obvious though :)
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Posted: Feb 8th 2012 9:57PM kimowar said

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@Protoavis
thanks for helping to support f2p and expecting them to really be free
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Posted: Feb 8th 2012 11:25PM Ehra said

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@Protoavis

Why not? It's new content and you need to pay for access for that content; be it through your subscription, which gets you automatic access without any additional cost, or by buying the DLC pack so you can access it without paying a subscription. This is how every hybrid F2P MMO I can think of does things.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 12:29AM JuliusSeizure said

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@Protoavis

I might be wrong, but isn't this a free update, and part of the general raid cycle?
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 2:47AM Furdinand said

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@JuliusSeizure I'm afraid you are. The devs have said that more or less any new content will be DLC except for things that can't really be roped off, like the recent R&D system for example.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 5:32AM Protoavis said

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@Ehra

Because even by SoE own terminology it's not an update maybe? They call them DLC's not updates ;)
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 5:35AM Protoavis said

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@JuliusSeizure

Nope, basically any content that has instancing will be locked into DLC's from now on (except the seasonal events if those have instancing).
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 9:34AM Vic Fontaine said

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@Furdinand
Funny cause those are roped off only to subs users. You can't craft ANYTHING worthwhile with the cash limits in place for the mid tier users, and certainly not for the F2P.

This essentially does make the game P2W and that's a damn shame. I was fine supporting the new DLC content packs, but I can't in good conscience justify supporting the P2W model.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 9:40AM Ehra said

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@Protoavis

You're arguing semantics now. Other than calling it "DLC" rather than a "quest pack" or whatever, it's exactly the same as every other F2P game that makes you pay to access new content. Your original post said that it shouldn't be called an "update" because you have to pay to access it, which doesn't make sense.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 9:50AM Furdinand said

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@Vic Fontaine That's a cop out, you can trade for anything and grind for most of it. The Type I's are still worth making if you are bound and determined to not trade for II's or III's.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 9:59AM Vic Fontaine said

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@Furdinand
Just because there's a .01% chance I'll get it as a drop does not excuse it, and just cause you don't mind pay to win doesn't make my statement a "cop out". Yes, in theory you can trade for them, but at extremely high markups. Especially when you factor in that money glitch SOE didn't see fit to rectify in time.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 10:53AM Ehra said

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@Vic Fontaine

So having to subscribe to the game to be able to hold enough money to be able to craft high end gear is "pay to win"? How is that worse than a game where you have to subscribe just to play at all (or play past level 20)? How is it worse than having to pay to access that content at all in the first place? Or how about expansions, shouldn't those be pay to win too since you usually have to buy them to get access to higher crafting tiers?

Your statement might not be a cop out, but it makes little to no sense.
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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 1:42PM Vic Fontaine said

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@Ehra
Ah that's going into the ever-present subs vs F2P arguement. I know most people on the F2P side only support cash shops when they only sell cosmetic stuff, though I usually don't mind buying DLC if it's really meaty on new content. I don't know anybody that likes having to pay for good items, though subbing to get better items is another whole debate.

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Posted: Feb 9th 2012 5:48PM Protoavis said

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@Ehra

semantics set out by SoE, you have to admit a majority of people aren't bright and if everyone starts calling DLC's updates when SoE have gone out of their way to call them different names it'll end in "but I was told..." type dramas all over the forums.
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Posted: Feb 8th 2012 8:16PM Faction 3 said

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What aboot the new Powerset?!

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