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Posted: Feb 7th 2012 10:14AM tentimes said

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This is very welcome and well overdue.

Posted: Feb 7th 2012 10:32AM Jetflame3 said

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This is very good, not that I don't enjoy a little competition, but some things are needed to be shared. It's also nice to see several rivaling companies working together.

Posted: Feb 7th 2012 11:06AM Equillian said

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Central security means there's one point of failure now for the whole industry if this is done incorrectly.

Posted: Feb 7th 2012 12:25PM aurickle said

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@Equillian
I don't believe we're talking about a central security system here. What we're talking about is establishing standards for security. Every company will establish their own security systems, but they'll do so within the new standards that they put together. And when a vulnerability is discovered in one company's system they'll share that info with the other companies so that the hole is fixed for everyone.

It is NOT going to be a case of "Hack SoE and get Blizzard's database as a bonus."
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Posted: Feb 7th 2012 11:18AM Deliverator said

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not a best practice: asking me one of 5 random opinion questions I answered back in December while trying to get into the game at the last minute. It's just f'ing annoying. Favorite car? Color? Best friend? Depends on my mood. Right now I'm in love with my Tiburon. When I was a kid I switched between a Posche 930 and a Ferrari 308. Apparently that day it was a 68 Mustang Shelby GT 500

Posted: Feb 7th 2012 11:20AM Deliverator said

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Factual questions would work better
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Posted: Feb 7th 2012 12:33PM aurickle said

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@Deliverator
Honestly, when answering those questions you should always use an answer that is NOT accurate. For example, if it asks what your first car was, answer with what your dream car would be. If it asks what city you were born in, answer with the city you've always wanted to visit. You want answers you will remember, but because they're wrong nobody else could answer correctly even if they have your info.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2012 11:34AM Valkenr said

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Sony Gamer Safety Tip #1:

Use a security system that is up to date.


Sony Gamer Safety Tip # 2:

Don't piss off the community to the point of retaliation.

Posted: Feb 7th 2012 11:37AM Deliverator said

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They're barking up the wrong tree purposely in order to maintain control over records of our credit cards. To be completely secure we'd need to re-look at how the whole thing works. Right now, we give them our numbers and they run them every month or when we make a purchase. They should give US a number to give to our banks so our bank will send THEM a payment every month. No more double billing and fighting for your money back. No more hundreds of hackable MMO databases - hackers would have to get into the bank to steal our money.

The reason why they wouldn't go that way is - 1) central repository for us to turn on/off subscriptions right at our bank - it's too convenient and they couldn't disappear the 'un-sub' button at will 2) it would take more thought for people to drop $5 on a potion. 30% of their income is probably made up by us forgetting to cancel/ being inconvenient to cancel and it not feeling like where spending real money. 3) kids would have to get permission every time they want to perform a microtransaction.

Posted: Feb 7th 2012 11:39AM Deliverator said

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where = we're. Stupid, half working comment system.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2012 11:43AM bobfish said

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@Deliverator

Well, a step in the right direction is to use a third party with better security. Paypal, Click and Buy, etc, are much more secure than most game companies.

Game companies don't need to hold payment information at all, they only do it because they don't want to pay a third party a cut of the profits.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2012 11:56AM Deliverator said

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@bobfish
Good point, but I maintain that they also try to introduce confusion into the un-sub process, circumvent parental control and try to reduce the thought process to grease impulse buys. Have you ever gotten to the point where you had to call customer service to cancel? Imagine if you only needed access to your bank to handle all of your outgoing funds? One password. One customer service department. They don't want it to be that easy and they certainly don't want you to see a record of all of your microtransactions every time you get to the store. They want to control that - put it on a different page and make you type your password again. Maybe they're protecting you in case someone snuck in and knocked you out after your typed in the password once 5 minutes ago, but I don't really think so. They study human behavior.
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Posted: Feb 7th 2012 1:01PM Deliverator said

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thanks for the suggestion, but I think it'd leave me in even worse shape. How do you keep track of the wrong answers?
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Posted: Feb 7th 2012 1:26PM Jorev said

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I would be more interested in being protected from developer fraud, specifically bait and switch revenue systems, being sold a subscription based MMO with the promise of never allowing RMT to be added and then witnessing the developer lie and do just that.
What does Smedley say about that ?

Posted: Feb 7th 2012 2:56PM Valkenr said

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@Jorev

He says nothing.

It funny how quoting him, in context, is not allowed on any SOE discussion board.

I had his famous quote from SWG where he vowed to listen to the players as my signature on the DCUO boards, it was removed in 2 days. There was a thread of his quotes throughout his time in SOE on the same board, that thread was "moved" to a location where no-one can read it.

You know you have a bad president when every major quote we have of him can be used against his credibility. But SOE has refined the 'bait and switch' and is able to survive. DCUO was by far the biggest SOE dick-punch to the gaming community, it had every dirty trick SOE has used. A 33% retention rate after 3 weeks is a sign you need to change management (and maybe should have stuck with F2P instead of bringing in subs knowing you wouldn't be able to give us 15/mo worth of content updates)
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Posted: Feb 7th 2012 2:03PM molotovzav said

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SE also posted some stuff for there MMO players, it all nice and good, but awareness is all up to who reads it, the people who read this crap have probably already taken extra precaution, the people who don't read get hacked. At least in the games I play with multinational servers, I don't know about games where you're separated by region never played one lol. ( know weird)

Posted: Feb 7th 2012 2:52PM Daemodand said

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NCSoft, member of this group, still limits passwords to 13 characters. :/

Posted: Feb 8th 2012 3:49AM DancingCow said

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*peers closely*

No Blizzard... Mmmmmmm......

This ain't no safety alliance. They're quietly forming a raid party to take on WoW!

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