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Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 12:10PM Yellowdancer said

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Yes, very wise man. EQ was the first MMO.

Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 12:46PM valdi313 said

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@Yellowdancer
No, it was not technically the first MMO...Ultima and Meridian came before it...but it was the first to bring the genre to a mass audience and have commercial success. So, he is correct with the fact that the modem MMO market would not exist today without it.
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 12:49PM smartstep said

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@valdi313

afaik UO peaked at 250 k subs and EQ I at 400 k subs , not that big of a diffrence ,especially considering that EQ was released 2 years after UO...

I am sure without EQ mmropg market would still progress. Tad diffrently maybe but it would go big anyway.
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 1:21PM (Unverified) said

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@Yellowdancer Apparently people missed your sarcasm and for that I'm truly sorry.
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 1:22PM Yellowdancer said

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@valdi313

I played Yserbius which was before UO and M59. I played M59 at launch. I played UO at launch.

But EQ was the first to capture my heart. So for me it was the first. Though Yserbius was very, very good.

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Posted: Feb 6th 2012 9:43AM kalipou134 said

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@Yellowdancer

Who cares, EQ was the first successful MMO to launch the wave of MMOs as we know them today.

Nobody gives a damn that you liked UO. It wasn't successful and didn't spawn a crapload of clones over the last decade.

If anything, UO was the last son of a dying breed.

Also, Casey's awesome, nerds can hate all they want.
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Posted: Feb 6th 2012 11:35AM Yellowdancer said

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@kalipou134

I'm so confused. Did I do a typo? I don't recall ever saying I liked UO.

I did like uninstalling it though.
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 12:47PM smartstep said

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It is not even funny ,it is just SAD.

How person who talk for quite some time about MMO and get paid for it for a living can say that EQ was first mmo.

*sigh*

Learn your facts before you state them publicly as a Truth.

First was Meridan 59 and then was Ultima Online shortly after.

Then before EQ there was LineAge I and who knows maybe even something else.

EQ was NOT fist.

If people "in the industry" ,consider EQ I as first mmo - then that would kinda explain sorry "themepark clones" mmropg market we have atm :/

Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 12:55PM Audacious said

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@smartstep

As if anyone on G4 has anything resembling integrity, credibility, or wit.
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 1:04PM watchawatch said

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@smartstep
You're right from a certain stand point. If you're talking about the modern evolution of MMOs, it's fair to say EQ started that trend. Virtually every MMO and the concept of what an MMO comes from is based off that.

UO had a top down view - not a 3D environment. Somewhere you need to draw the line. You draw it at UO or Meridian 59. Personally I'm not sure about Meridian. I think that's just something people say without actually looking at what the game was. It really is nothing like MMOs today and has more in common with the old Final Fantasy games if you ask me. There's a strong case for UO in my opinion though.

I think UO started the concept of what an MMO should be, EQ took it to the next level and almost every MMO after it has copied that format to some extent.
Technically text based games - MUDs, etc. could be called the first MMOs in a sense depending on how broad you want to make the definition.
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 1:05PM (Unverified) said

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@smartstep

You are right, if anything, EQ was the first 3D MMORPG where the previous 3 were top down.
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 5:35PM Ripper McGee said

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@smartstep

"How person who talk for quite some time about MMO and get paid for it for a living can say that EQ was first mmo.

*sigh*

Learn your facts before you state them publicly as a Truth."

I would say the same to you. Casey never said EQ was the first MMO. Instead, he referred to Everquest as "the MMO that started it all". That is not the same thing at all as saying it was the first MMO. There's a lot of context in that simple statement that doesn't mean what you think it means literally...
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 5:39PM Jenks said

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Uh, wrong? Meridian 59 was 3D and it was not top down.
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 1:06PM Platapus said

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I might watch this stuff if he didn't have such a douchey looking beard.

Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 2:02PM SkuzBukit said

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@Platapus You sir are a damn Beardist!
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 3:45PM DerpMchurson said

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According to these out of touch religious nutbags....

hahahaha

Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 5:30PM Ripper McGee said

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"Everquest, the MMO that started it all" "The 1st MMO"

Casey's statements were entirely correct, IMO. Everquest was the first commercially successful 3D MMO. I remember when other upstart games were vying to be the EQ-killer, much like the mythical WoW-killer people still seek today. EQ was the MMO that started it all. Yes, there were other non-3D MMOs first, but without the success of EQ I think the MMO market would probably have turned out quite differently.

Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 5:31PM Ripper McGee said

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@Ripper McGee

Hmm, the thread client omitted my "does not equal" symbol.

The first line should be "Everquest, the MMO that started it all" does not equal "The 1st MMO"
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Posted: Feb 3rd 2012 9:56PM Kalex716 said

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I played nexus TK first, it was out before UO by a little bit, and was out in Korea before hand.

While I wouldn't dispute, that calling EQ the first "real" MMO is probably most appropriate (i played it as well), people were playing persistant online RPG's that had real communities before hand as well. I would identify my first MMO experiences with Nexus TK, but i still think its reasonable to give EQ its props with respects to going big with it.

Its kinda like trying to pinpoint the birth of an art movement... Its really quite hard, and things tend to progress and happen universally before any one particular person revolutionizes something.

Posted: Feb 5th 2012 9:38PM Chareth Cutestory said

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My first MMO was Lineage: The Bloodpledge. As with Lineage 2, it was way more popular in Korea.

Regardless of where they lived, it peaked at 3 million subscribers.

Camera placement has nothing to do with whether or not a game is an MMO.

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