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Posted: Jan 30th 2012 3:09PM Nickelpat said

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So in the button line, how's the population doing these days?

Posted: Jan 30th 2012 3:31PM Maseno said

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@Nickelpat

Short answer: Poorly.

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Posted: Jan 30th 2012 4:01PM BigAndShiny said

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@Maseno
F2P would be amazing for Vanguard.
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Posted: Jan 30th 2012 4:27PM bobfish said

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@BigAndShiny

I hope so, this will be their last subscription only game, now that they've just announced EQ going free to play.
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Posted: Jan 30th 2012 4:49PM Maseno said

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@BigAndShiny

F2P could be spectacular if they go full free to play and not freemium. I love love love this game, but it just doesn't constitute a subscription anymore with all the quality f2p games out there now. Even though I will say that the All Access pass from SOE is still one of the best deals in gaming.
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Posted: Jan 30th 2012 9:41PM firestem4 said

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@Maseno

The population is not great but I see a lot of new players and returning players all the time. I don't know how many leave however but if the incoming players are any indication, it has been doing better lately than in a long while.
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Posted: Jan 30th 2012 3:22PM Bhagpuss said

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I was at the 5th birthday party in Ahgram yesterday and had a great time. Posted about it on my blog this morning.

With the announcement that Everquest is going F2P in March, it seems impossible that Vanguard could hold out as SoE's only subscription-required title. I just hope that means an eventual conversion to F2P for Vanguard, not the closing of the doors on one of the best MMOs ever.

Posted: Jan 30th 2012 3:28PM Andurin said

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@Bhagpuss I heard Smedley has been tweeting stay tuned on Vanguard FTP and with the updates happening I would doubt closure and point more towards FTP... here's hoping
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Posted: Jan 30th 2012 3:30PM (Unverified) said

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F2P would definitely boost this titles population and I hope it goes that direction as it always had a lot of promise but not the funding it needed to go from a promising game with a bad start to a great game.

Posted: Jan 30th 2012 4:34PM kevinrahl said

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I would love to see this go free to play. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Vanguard. Not only was it the latest project of Brad Mcquaid and closer to being a spiritual successor to EQ 1.

But also and more importantly it was the last artwork from the late and great Keith Parkinson. He was one of my most favorite artist of all time. Its nice to see some of his work live on in the game.

Here to hoping that SOE makes the right decision by continuing development of the game and eventually making it FTP.

Posted: Jan 30th 2012 10:36PM (Unverified) said

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@kevinrahl

I will have a soft spot for Keith Parkinson, but not for Brad McQuaid after what he did to all the employees at Sigil. Those folks put a lot of effort into a game that was thrown away in a parking lot.

Met a lot of those fine folks at the very first fanguard and would love to see this game flourish again.
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Posted: Jan 30th 2012 4:40PM Dril said

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See, the thing is, if Vanguard was released today I would bet a fair sum that it would not only get *great* word of mouth, but it would also retain around 50-150k players, assuming steady content updates. Why?

Because I think a lot of people in the MMOsphere nowadays are really faced with a stark choice: linear, generic themeparks or user-unfriendly, oft underfunded and bug-ridden sandboxes. There is virtually no middle ground. Vanugard is in absolutely prime position to skate in and snap up a group that have been left behind by MMO trends.

I just hope it gets a second, F2P chance, and soon. I only made it to level 14, but I have fond, fond memories of Vanguard (and I've played through the trial ~10 times) but the main thing that keeps me from playing it is the uncertainty of its future and the population. In fixing one thing (the future), SOE will hugely boost the other and it could, hopefully, get some momentum behind it.

Make it so.

Posted: Jan 30th 2012 5:07PM Maseno said

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@Dril
I think SOE was attempting to let people know Vanguard wasn't going anywhere when they announced the patches.

That being said F2P is the saving grace,
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Posted: Jan 30th 2012 6:37PM Ulfgaar said

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I tried, I just could never get into this game. I am glad to see it getting some love, though.

Posted: Jan 30th 2012 8:24PM (Unverified) said

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Amazing game - make it f2p for the love of god so that the population can get a boost!

Posted: Jan 30th 2012 8:44PM (Unverified) said

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When I think of Vanguard I get sad about what could have been.

If I could convince 25 of my MMO friends to commit to anywhere in cyberspace for 1 year, I'd be Vanguard.

I wish some crazy billionaire MMO enthusiast would come to Vanguard's rescue and inject like 20 million worth of polish and content and resusitate the game.

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