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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 1:05PM rkaycom said

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What's the point? When NCsoft wins the lawsuit everyone will be IP blocked because there will be no servers to connect to :-P

Posted: Jan 29th 2012 1:26PM Rhodanum said

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@rkaycom

I have a hard time seeing them winning a case whose decision will be blocking the game's launch if they couldn't do that in Korea either.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 1:36PM silver001 said

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@Rhodanum U.S court =/= Korean court. Also from what I know it seems that they did infact block it but bluehole went ahead to release the game either ways, also the U.S is far strict on copyright infringement than most countries are.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 1:41PM Ganathar said

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@silver001
1. They didn't block it.
2. NCsoft didn't have enough evidence to prove that Tera was made from the L3 source code.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 2:07PM DevilSei said

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@Ganathar
True that NCSoft couldn't prove TERA was made from stolen L3 assets, but if I remember right the ex-NCSoft employees who left to join Blue were found guilty for stealing L3 assets in Korean courts, though that is still waiting for an appeal.

So, there is something there to the claim, but who knows how it might affect the turn out.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 8:56PM Cyroselle said

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@DevilSei I think one of the problems is that they did in fact steal hardware (drives) from the company of their former employ, and apparently (if the current scuttlebutt is correct) the game footage used in their elevator pitch to Japanese investors was from what little they had of Lineage 3.

The present game might not actually have any of that old code in it actually, so likely they can go forward with it. Those developers involved with the actual theft still have to serve jail time though, unless they can win out in appellate court... and I did hear that one of the trials was won, just not sure which or for what.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 11:52PM Rhazes said

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@Rhodanum In U.S. courts company with most money wins.
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Posted: Jan 30th 2012 11:34AM Brockobama321 said

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@silver001 You might want to study copyright law on software, then. Copyright claims on software focus on the coding of the game, not the look or feel of it. Because of this, it's very hard to prove the kind of things NcSoft is claiming, and it's why they'll lose.

Their whole argument is "It looks like the game we were making/we make". That doesn't fly in US courts. Why do you think there are so many legitimate WoW clones out there?
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 1:06PM J45neoboy said

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Good, if only more games would do this.

Posted: Jan 29th 2012 2:04PM Maseno said

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@J45neoboy

You do understand it is extremely simple to route your IP through another area right?
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 8:59PM Cyroselle said

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@Maseno Yes, and they said that if they needed to use proxy countermeasures they would. Of course then a farmer can multi-jump proxy, but then that will trash client-server latency... then again, if they're just botting they won't care.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 10:03PM Addfwyn said

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@J45neoboy Yeah, because you know...I don't like playing games with friends in other regions or anything. More games should block legitimate customers
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 11:07PM ChongShin said

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@J45neoboy I agree, actually. NCSoft is notorious for allowing (even indirectly encouraging) botting in their games. I do think that EME is being perhaps a bit too heavy handed, but at the same time it's good to come out of the gates swinging seriously. EME is distancing themselves from NCSoft by doing this.

They can always add solutions later that will allow others into the game while keeping the bots out. Once there's a bad bot problem, though, you can't get rid of the bots or the reputation.

Sure, every MMO has bots. That's true. The problem with NCSoft is that their games are like houses that are infested with roaches. You can argue that every house has a spider or the occasional ant problem or something (just like every MMO has bots), so it's no big deal. NCSoft, on the other hand, if their games were houses, they would have swarms of roaches in their kitchens & up their walls and they'd be doing nothing about it (you'd be lucky if they cleaned the dishes & made a big deal about it) because, ya know, every house has a few pests.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 1:08PM Addfwyn said

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While I enjoy TERA, I guess this means I won't be playing with any of my US friends at all, which I was hoping to do. May end up dropping the game, cause not many of my JP friends play right now. Boo

Posted: Jan 29th 2012 1:37PM Valdur said

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@Addfwyn

Same for me.So according to EME if we can't get the bad ones let's block them all.Anyway there are other games that I'm interested so if EME don't want me to play their game,I'll give my money to another company.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 1:10PM Lobotomist said

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Good , another game I will not be able to play...sheesh

Posted: Jan 29th 2012 1:19PM Utakata said

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...something about the baby being tossed out with the bathwater comes to mind after reading this.

But I guess I'll have to see how this pans out. As in, if goldsellers are still getting threw yet potential legitimate users are being blocked, then this wasn't such a good idea.

Posted: Jan 29th 2012 1:40PM Valdur said

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@Utakata

Let's wait 3 months after launch, I guess they will bite their fingers really hard then.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 9:33PM Cyroselle said

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@Utakata IMO the line that it's to prevent access to gold farmers is a diversion. I think it's to lower the regions possible to be sued in. :D
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 1:21PM (Unverified) said

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I don't really understand networking stuff, but isn't this easily circumvented by the cyber-criminals thus essentially punishing the regular players of those areas? And really, even if that's not the case I still think it's stupid to make such a blanket decision. Let's just lump all these people into one group since they live in the same region and punish them all. Great.

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