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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 5:35PM Ganathar said

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Well... i played Lineage II in when it went f2p and it wasn't that great.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 11:40AM Traptz said

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GW2 > Any MMO released in the last 5 years and the next 5.

(Yes I know NCsoft has nothing to do with GW2)

Posted: Jan 27th 2012 1:13PM jimr9999us said

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Have you played it yet?

I mean sheesh...we as a gaming community would do well to somewhat manage our expectations :)

And NCsoft...if they could keep games running half as well as they litigate, maybe I could trust them enough to invest time into one of their titles.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 1:31PM StClair said

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And people say TOR was over-prehyped. :p
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 4:25PM BigNastey said

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All aboard the Hype train.
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Posted: Jan 28th 2012 6:59AM Cyroselle said

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@StClair Casey Jones is the engineer of *this* particular hype train, watch out!
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 11:48AM entropyboy said

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both games have elves - it must be true!!1!

Posted: Jan 27th 2012 1:11PM Neiloch said

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I duuno seems like NCSoft has a shitty case. I mean Trion (rift) is made of A LOT of former EQ2 developers and SoE didn't say a word.

Also it seems like NCSoft spends more money on its legal department than it's creative departments than most companies.

Posted: Jan 27th 2012 3:56PM Rialle said

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@Neiloch

The argument is NOT that there are ex-NCSoft devs on the team.

The argument is that the ex-NCSoft devs stole intellectual property from their former employer and then used it in the product developed by their new employer.
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Posted: Jan 31st 2012 3:21AM Arrei said

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@Rialle But they couldn't prove that "used" part", apparently?
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 1:14PM (Unverified) said

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@Traptz

Except for the fact that NCsoft owns ArenaNet?


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If you read the public legal document, it states that NCsoft assets were to have been removed from TERA, yet images extremely similar to L3 concept art are still being used for promotional use. There are even side by side image comparisons in the document.

Now that a release date has been confirmed, there is intent to sell in a competing market using "stolen copyright material."

Guess we'll all see how it goes.

Posted: Jan 27th 2012 1:18PM Ganathar said

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Yep but they are not the the same.
The NCsoft image is also a really low resolusion pic (this was probably don in purpose). And there are many games thet have some similar races if you know were to look.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 1:18PM Neiloch said

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@(Unverified) Well that's just promotional. Them replacing such assets in the actual game could easily explain the delays.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 1:49PM (Unverified) said

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It's quite wierd however that NCsoft just gave Aion Europe to Gameforge/Frogster who are also publishing TERA.

Posted: Jan 27th 2012 3:52PM Rialle said

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While a Korean court did find that some ex-NCSoft employees stole technology (code, assets, whatever) and tried to misappropriate it, it seems less clear if or not these things were directly used for TERA.

While the individuals involved were convicted, it seems that the civil action by NCSoft was eventually lost in appeals. (A lower court seemed to have agreed with NCSoft, but a higher court reversed the decision.)

From an art direction point of view, TERA does look very much like we'd expect from an NCSoft title. However, similar art styles are seen in many Korean MMOs, and I doubt NCSoft can claim they own the copyright on large-breasted stripper elves.

Mechanically, the next announced lineage game (Lineage Eternal) looks strikingly different from TERA. So I'm not sure how they are related.

I don't think that NCSoft will win it's argument in the US, though who knows? They might be paid up with the right people.

Posted: Jan 27th 2012 8:41PM Chzsandwich said

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@Rialle

My understanding is that the Korean appellate court reversed only on the damages, and not on fault.

Also other comments have pointed out that Lineage Eternal is a sort of spin off of the Lineage franchise (like Ghost as to Star Craft) with intentionally different gameplay/design, and (at any rate) a wholly separate project from L3. Personally, I find it interesting that NCsoft claims that L3 would have been an "action" MMO with a political system. However, one should take their litigation position with a grain of salt.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 4:02PM Neiloch said

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Oh I know. but thing is that you could say that about almost any 'former' employee. Then again Rift looked NOTHING like EQ2 and it seems art assets are one of the bigger points.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 4:07PM pcgneurotic said

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De Nile ain't a river in Egypt.

Posted: Jan 27th 2012 6:02PM real65rcncom said

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I'm not saying they stole it, but this game looks almost like a long-lost twin, one of the main reasons I'm not playing Tera.

I've already played Aion.

Posted: Jan 27th 2012 10:53PM Stilllove said

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Tera is very different from AION. For one thing it's coherent and has a soul.
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