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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 9:36AM Sorithal said

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It's kind of funny that NCSoft decided to file a lawsuit after TERA's launch was announced and everything. Wonder if they'll try to just yoink the nearly finished game from En Masse so they can use it themselves or whatnot.

Posted: Jan 27th 2012 9:57AM plegnic said

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@Sorithal I think that they legally had to wait for the launch to be announced because you can't ask for a delay in the planned release date when there is no release date to begin with.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 9:57AM silver001 said

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@Sorithal maybe because having a release date gave ncsoft legal standing to file in the U.S. Since the U.S courts are more strict on enforcing copyright than then korean courts.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 10:00AM darzin said

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@silver001 Nope. You can enjoin a product before it actually has a release date, especially if you believe it is using stolen assets.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 10:06AM silver001 said

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@darzin that would be true if the crime happen in the U.S.A, but it happen elsewhere so the courts here will need to know if the was an intent to release in the U.S.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 11:00AM Sorithal said

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@plegnic

Really? Because Bethesda filed lawsuit after lawsuit against the Fallout Online developers when they were still working on it, and no release date was mentioned.

Though I guess that could be different than what NCsoft's filing a lawsuit for.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 11:15AM silver001 said

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@Sorithal That because it happen in the U.S, so its a U.S copyright thing. Ncsoft had no jurisdiction to file here until En Masse, announced a release date so now the U.S became a jurisdiction.

To sum it up, without a release date the U.S court would be blind since there is no intent to release in the U.S jurisdiction.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 9:40AM silver001 said

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it's funny how En Masse is made of former Ncsoft west employees. Just like bluehole studios in korea.

Posted: Jan 27th 2012 9:56AM Braiks said

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@silver001 Well, it's also Blizzard employees, Patrick Wyatt and other veterans.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 9:58AM silver001 said

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@Braiks I know that but all the higher ups like chris lee was the president of Ncwest a few ago.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 12:44PM bobfish said

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@silver001 En Masse was setup by BHS, they are a wholly owned subsidiary not a separate company.

So it isn't surprising that they are both formed of people from the same company.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 1:10PM (Unverified) said

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@silver001 um... that's technically the crux of this whole lawsuit thing. If En Masse didn't employ a couple of disgruntled NCSoft ex-employees then there would be no lawsuit.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 1:16PM bobfish said

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No En Masse IS Blue Hole Studios, they are the same company.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 2:33PM (Unverified) said

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Not exactly. even if EME had no actual former NcSoft employees, the lawsuit would still be valid as the manner of how the game itself came to be is still questionable. The inclusion of former NcSoft employees at EME just gives NcSoft that much ammunition to use in their case.
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Posted: Jan 28th 2012 6:47AM Cyroselle said

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@bobfish Ahhh... well I was wondering about that, thanks for the revelation!
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 9:49AM Grumms said

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Well, hopefully it all gets worked out. And let's also hope that we can get the game on time.

I'm in need of an action mmo.

Posted: Jan 27th 2012 1:28PM NeverDeath said

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@Grumms

Same here. this is a hopeful sign, though.
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Posted: Jan 28th 2012 6:51AM Cyroselle said

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@Grumms Ramen to that!

You! /looks at NCSoft

You! /looks at Blue Hole Studios

Settle this in an amiable way so we gamers can get on with the aim casting and dynamic edged-weapon juggling!!
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 9:50AM (Unverified) said

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If BH and EME have any common sense at all, they would have coded around anything that NCsoft could even potentially claim as theirs. Though... that would explain all the silence and delays...

Posted: Jan 27th 2012 12:47PM bobfish said

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@(Unverified) I think it is more to do with concept and design than raw code.

It is unclear exactly what in TERA came from L3, but we do know that they used L3 demo code to present to potential investors in Japan when they were setting up BHS, rather than a demo of TERA itself.
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