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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 12:02AM dragonandante said

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Huh? Where did this May 2012 launch date come from?

Posted: Jan 26th 2012 12:15AM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 12:17AM toychristopher said

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@dragonandante They recently announced it
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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 12:11AM Verus said

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Guess this is the next fallout debacle..

Posted: Jan 26th 2012 12:17AM Kawaii Five0 said

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Seeing how copyright infringement has become a focal point of interest for the US government, I could very easily see a judge ruling that EME would have to wait until the completion of the pending civil and criminal appeals, at the very least.

Of course, I'm no law student so I can only make uneducated speculation. In light of that, I'm curious to see what EME has to say in response to this. Some reassurance would be nice.

Posted: Jan 26th 2012 12:22AM (Unverified) said

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Isn't there a timeline for crap like this? A statute of limitations? I mean, the game has been out in korea almost a full year already and they just NOW decide to sue before they release in the US? Low blow NCSoft.

Posted: Jan 26th 2012 12:33AM yeppers said

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Well... as Jef mentioned, "Despite the fact that both criminal and civil litigation is still pending, Bluehole launched the Korean version of TERA in early 2011" They launched in Korea knowing it all might be for naught if they lose the lawsuits.

If the lawsuit is justified and the employees really stole proprietary information, hopefully NC Soft shuts them down. Stealing is bad... especially if they stole someone's artistic creation.
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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 1:03AM Stilllove said

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@yeppers These people were working on L3 back at NCSoft - the project was cancelled, and they took what they could to continue working on it and named it TERA.

This, Is, Not, A, Simple, Case, Of, Thievery.

Thank you for your time.
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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 1:08AM jslim419 said

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@Stilllove

just because NCsoft canceled the project doesn't mean that all of the material and hardware the former employee's took was up for grabs.
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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 1:12AM Chzsandwich said

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NC Soft didn't have a cause of action in the US until Bluehole officially announced TERA's release in the States. So this is actually quite prompt.

According to the complaint, NC Soft is looking to permanently enjoin the launch of TERA in the United States.

Complaint available: http://tsi.brooklaw.edu/sites/tsi.brooklaw.edu/files/filings/ncsoft-corporation-et-al-v-bluehole-studio-inc-et-al/20120109ncsoft-corporation-et-al-v-bluehole-studio-inc-et-alcomplaint.pdf
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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 5:51AM Allenomura said

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@Chzsandwich great post, thank you for putting up a link to the complaint itself.

I'm sure I heard this as hearsay before, although it went along the lines that Aion was built from what there was of L3...That's VERY bad though, and I'd assume prosecutable, if the TERA company, formed of ex-NCS people, took things they held no ownership/rights to, and made TERA from it! :o
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 8:51AM kalipou134 said

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@Chzsandwich

lol, yet another reason to hate NCsoft, as if Aion wasn't enough.
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 8:54PM Chzsandwich said

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@kalipou134

Its right to feel that gamers are the big losers in all this, but I have to defend NCsoft because (at least from their perspective) Lineage 3 would be the game being released (or at least in a position to be released) if not for the actions of their former employees who founded Bluehole.

Some people may not like the idea that NCsoft is (in my opinion) probably going to stop TERA from being released, but the protections that trade secret and intellectual property law provide are part of what makes the creation of these wonderful, expensive worlds possible.
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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 12:27AM NeverDeath said

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Sure hope this is dismissed (again) so we can play the damn game on time.

Posted: Jan 26th 2012 12:35AM Kawaii Five0 said

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@NeverDeath
It never was 'dismissed'. Bluehole Studios was convicted for the charges against them. I believe some of the people involved even did jail time in addition to paying a hefty fine for damages.

Part of the damages that were awarded as a result of that conviction (barring the game from even being released) was overturned in an appellate court. From the article, I'm inferring that there are still appeals pending regarding the appellate court's decision. The fact that those appeals are still pending are likely the foundation of NCsoft's lawsuit in the US.
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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 12:51AM NeverDeath said

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@Kawaii Five0

Considering they posted an official may 1st release date, makes you wonder how much is really going to be enforced, or if they know something you don't know. They're obviously still here and since have posted an official NA release date, so I guess at this point, we shall see. I only said I hoped it releases on time, as far as its being dismissed, I only go by what I hear, which was definitely not that people had gone to jail.
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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 1:02AM Kawaii Five0 said

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@NeverDeath

"On Jan. 28, the civil department of the Seoul Central District Court rendered a verdict and required the 4 involved defendants including Mr. Park to compensate NCsoft by 2 billion Wons. Meanwhile, the defendants were also ordered not to disclose NCsoft's business secrets to any others, but clear up all related data in hand."

http://news.mmosite.com/content/2009-12-29/lineage3_code_stolen_issue_ends_tera_to_be_released_as_planned.shtml

You can find several more sources other than mmosite with a simple goodle search.
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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 1:04AM Kawaii Five0 said

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@Kawaii Five0

Oops. Quoted the wrong part: "This is the civil ruling, following the criminal one in which the core developers of Bluehole Studio were found guilty (on Jun. 26, 2009, the Seoul Central District Court sentenced the former development director of Lineage 3 - Mr. Park to a fixed-term imprisonment of one and a half years with a 2-year suspension of execution for malfeasance and disclosure of business secrets)."
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Posted: Jan 27th 2012 9:06AM Ganathar said

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@Kawaii Five0
Yep they where found guilty because they stole the code and apparently intended to sell it but it was never proven in court thet it was used to make TERA.
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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 12:39AM edgecrusherO0 said

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QUICK! Someone from our company is working for another company, THEY MUST HAVE STOLEN ALL OF OUR IDEAS!

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