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Posted: Jan 25th 2012 1:43PM Unshra said

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I see they wielded it's head in place *sad face*, other then that it looks good. The Centurion was one of my favorite mechs.

Posted: Jan 25th 2012 2:54PM Unshra said

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@Unshra Hmm where did the "i" come from (I'll blame auto correct)... anyways I meant "welded". lol
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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 10:40AM ScottishViking said

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@Unshra

Yeah, weird about the head...but I have to say, it looks pretty badass in that "hunched up" football player aspect. A small but significant redesign. I do like it.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2012 1:54PM lionspaced said

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Any idea on whether we will be able to put a claw on it like Kai-Allard's ?

Posted: Jan 25th 2012 2:23PM Space Cobra said

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Meh, I miss the first (stolen) designs....

I don't think this even transforms anymore. At least no "Ger-walk" function.

No more Macross Valkyries or Dougram Solar-Fangs. : /

Posted: Jan 25th 2012 2:37PM (Unverified) said

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@Space Cobra

If you are thinking this was one of the Unseens then you have the wrong mech, this one wasn't every in Macross or other anime. This is an old standby of the BT franchise.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Centurion
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Posted: Jan 25th 2012 2:39PM Space Cobra said

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Ah! Okay, *now* I remember that Mech!
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Posted: Jan 25th 2012 3:17PM StClair said

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@Space Cobra
Yeah, I came here to say,
"Gosh, it hardly even looks like a Valkyrie anymore." :p
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Posted: Jan 25th 2012 3:18PM StClair said

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Although now that I think about it, and check, I think both you and I were thinking of the Crusader.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2012 4:48PM Space Cobra said

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@StClair

Well, this page reminded me:

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Unseen

That the Crusader is just a Valkyrie with extra armor on it.

(I remember first being introduced to Macross not via Anime, but the *plastic models* and at the time, I thought most of those were separate Mechs and not the same Mech either transformed or wearing armor or what-have-you).

I also remember the re-issue of the "re-seen" stuff. I bought that book, but I've always been in the same position as Justin Olevetti has been in regards for Battletech per his last article (re: "I collect the books and can't find anyone to play the game with me!!!")
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Posted: Jan 25th 2012 2:48PM pcgneurotic said

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Have we had FASA-style Battlemasters yet? /drool

Posted: Jan 25th 2012 5:09PM (Unverified) said

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@pcgneurotic

Not yet, but you can see the rest of the ones that they have done here.

http://mwomercs.com/media

I love me some Atlas.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2012 2:54PM Dunraven said

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Yes!!!!

Being Fifteen I missed all the Mechwarrior games; my Dad introduced me to them starting with MW2 then 3-4 I read just about every novel I could get my hands on and am always conning people into playing Battletech with me....I am so jazzed for the game and the Centurion is one of my favorite mechs.

Posted: Jan 25th 2012 4:06PM (Unverified) said

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I still have the sheet for the Rifleman that I used way back in the day. Looking forward to seeing more on this one. Might actually pull me from SW:TOR, at least for a bit.

Posted: Jan 25th 2012 8:09PM Fakeassname said

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here's a question on the issue of those "unseen" mechs:

back in the 70's / 80's Harmony gold bought the forever-and-ever rights for the three shows it combined into Robotech from a Japanese publisher.

Harmony Gold sued FASA for the use of the Robotech related artwork as copyright infringement, despite FASA having permission from the Japanese artists to use them.

... it ends up that the Japanese publisher did not own the rights that it sold to Harmony Gold, this has been established in a Japanese court, despite that Harmony Gold continues to maintain that they hold the western publishing rights to all past, present, and future Macross related products.

Isn't what Harmony Gold doing technically piracy?

Posted: Jan 25th 2012 10:19PM Space Cobra said

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@Fakeassname

I'd probably have to look into the specifics of that case. Actually, it is rather funny/weird this is still an issue because 1) Didn't think Harmony Gold was still in business 2) Carl Macek(sp?) is dead.

I can only provide an analogy of Toei Productions vs. Chaiyo Productions over the rights of Ultraman. I will admit bias, but it seems Chaiyo really did lie to keep the rights of Ultraman. A Japanese court deferred for a time to Chaiyo and Chaiyo "ran with it" and made related Ultraman stuff.

This dragged for years and now Toei was finally recognized as the rights holder, however, I have noted that while Japan cares about it's international rights, it only "publishes/produces" their series mostly in their country (with some syndication to China and other Asian countries). Their "expansion of IP" has essentially stopped so anything farther afield, IMHO, tends to get unnoticed if it isn't too obvert. This sort of basically means that a company, like Harmony Gold, could get away with making merchandise for this, but there is a real danger if they are noticed, Bandai would bring the issue to court, so such a thing would have to be "under the radar". Meanwhile, I am pretty sure Harmony Gold, whether they legally own the rights or not, are trying to figure out a way to use such rights without getting into litigation. So, in essence, they are probably sitting on the rights, as they view it. This means no other studio/company can use such things unless they also want to get into a legal battle: Even if there is a question of Harmony Gold's ownership, they can claim they own such rights and make it hard for any new company. In fact, that is what any rights owner should do.

Basically, they have to "bluff" and keep the claim because if they do not challenge any new claims, the lack of challenge would be a legal admission they do not own the rights.

This is more "legal political dancing" than "common sense", so it is a bit tricky to understand, even for me. But look at it this way: If someone made Mickey Mouse plushies and Disney did not step up in a timely manner to sue/block that sale, they would be admitting to basically dropping such rights to those plushies, so they have to legally challenge it, otherwise it would set a precedent that says it would be alright if other companies made plushies without Disney's permission.

Harmony Gold, in my guesstimation, is probably in a similar boat, but if they "legally" own the rights or are just "bluffing", they have to face all challengers, otherwise the concede those rights. This is probably why no one wants to "challenge" Harmony Gold, even if they legally could do so with the Japanese company's consent.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2012 10:24PM Space Cobra said

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@Fakeassname

To get back to the issue of "piracy", it probably is not. It's something different. Harmony Gold is, to my knowledge, not producing any product at this time. AFAIK, they aren't making a current profit with the license. Also, they are in a legal battle trying to fight a legal game.

Piracy would just assume to make such items and sell them without any ambitions to legality, at least in actual court. Mind you, some pirates can and have used such legalities, but they don't bother to actually go to court to defend them.

So...it could be considered piracy, but it's in a vague area of "legal dispute" IMO, at the moment.
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Posted: Jan 25th 2012 10:53PM Fakeassname said

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@Space Cobra

lol, I was mostly just being sarcastic, but in my eyes it's about as close to corporate piracy as you can get.

sure, at the time HG did legally buy the rights and it was the other guys who were at fault for selling what they didn't own (they had the rights to publish, and I guess to sell limited overseas rights; they sold HG Unlimited rights).

however it was established that the sale was unlawful, and HG has even agreed that it was ... however they still maintain that they own the IP (that is to say "anything relating to macross" in the western market. there is two major telivision shows, a second OVA series, several animated movies, and a shit ton of video games that are being blocked from release in the US ans Europe because HG (well, the people who own them now ... they got bought a while back) claims copyright infringement unless the products are licensed through them.
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Posted: Jan 26th 2012 5:31PM NathanAllen said

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Why not just use the new looks from Technical Readout: Project Phoenix?

Posted: Mar 1st 2012 1:49AM (Unverified) said

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This is the first redesign I dislike. Looks like an entirely different mech. Needs a proper head, round crest and especially please ditch that shoulder fin. I do think the mini shield on the arm is a nice illusion to the Romans.

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