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Posted: Jan 23rd 2012 1:10PM Utakata said

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@Utakata

Edit: I guess that comment got Schuster'd.
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Posted: Jan 22nd 2012 8:56PM Miffy said

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We wont know how well SWTOR is doing until a months times because not everyone purchased day one. There will be about a million people who purchased after and whose 30 days free is to run out. Also the end game is really crap so lots of people are still to get there and get bored.

All depends on the end game content Bioware adds within the next month.

Posted: Jan 22nd 2012 10:01PM Sgt Barone said

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I put about 30 hours into Star Wars this week, and it's been a blast. This is my first MMO and I love it.

Posted: Jan 22nd 2012 10:32PM Traptz said

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@Sgt Barone

I hear this a lot.."this is my first MMO" You just don't know what you're missing man.

Take it from someone who has experience in a lot of MMO's, SWTOR isn't worth a monthly fee. Not yet. It may get fixed in the coming months but who knows.

Also, A LOT of the major issues are level 50 issues. I didn't see much of an issue while leveling either.

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Posted: Jan 22nd 2012 10:42PM (Unverified) said

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@Traptz

Take it from someone who has experience in a lot of mmos, a few of them which did not even have graphics just text. TOR is fun, people I am playing with are having fun. There are some who do not like it but online its several people who constantly bash games to create an illusion the game "sucks" like yourself and your post history.
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Posted: Jan 22nd 2012 10:46PM Joaquin Crowe said

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@(Unverified) You'd be more persuasive with a counter argument to his assertion than being lazy with the "oh you're just a hater" trope.
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Posted: Jan 22nd 2012 10:50PM KvanCetre said

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@Sgt Barone
Take it from me, if this is your first MMO.
Leave Massively and never come back. You'll be better off without people like Traptz trying to ruin your fun at every step.
Massively, like so many other places on the internet, is a wretched hive of scum. Not so much villainy, really.
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Posted: Jan 22nd 2012 10:50PM KvanCetre said

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@Joaquin Crowe
Did I miss the part where there was an argument to counter?

"This game sucks"
"No it doesn't"
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Posted: Jan 23rd 2012 12:17AM Maseno said

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Fanboy going to fanboy, hater going to hate, realist is going to see that the game is a shoddy knock off of WoW and move on.

I mean seriously, if you are going to basically copy/paste systems from one game into another, at least try to one up them instead of taking steps backwards.
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Posted: Jan 23rd 2012 12:23AM Maseno said

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@KvanCetre

There is actually a lot of good information from the Massively community if you can sift through certain subjects.


Basically anything posted about SWTOR is going to be met with two distinct arguments. There are the people who play the game and like it, and there are the masses of people who dislike SWTOR because at the core, it is a game we have played for years on end, and a bad one at that.

BW ran the hype machine so hard that the explosion caused it to engulf their buildings. The backlash from the community because of the hype, and the subsequent lack of delivery is honestly one of the worst I have seen for any MMO.

Also, having a lead designer coming out and saying "This is the most innovative MMO ever created." when in fact it is basically the same cookie cutter MMO with some voice acting and cut scenes doesn't really get taken very well. Especially when the game in its entirety lacks anything that is new or "innovative" enough to keep you captivated long enough for a sub fee.
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Posted: Jan 23rd 2012 3:26AM (Unverified) said

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@Maseno
The idea behind TOR is to get people who wouldn't normally play MMOs to play one and like it (because it focuses on Your Character in a way none other does). It was misleading of them to indicate that it would attract people who already love MMOs, because it doesn't: they're motivated enough to play, and don't need the Fourth Pillar to draw them in. But they probably thought it would.
So, they were wrong. How terrible they are that you bought their game because they advertised it as being something awesome, and it is awesome to people who aren't you.
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Posted: Jan 23rd 2012 3:42AM Vagrant Zero said

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@Maseno Nice troll there. You're still a putz though.
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Posted: Jan 23rd 2012 5:53AM (Unverified) said

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@Traptz

"Take it from someone who has experience in a lot of MMO's, SWTOR isn't worth a monthly fee."

You seem to be good at spouting out your opinion as fact. You are entitled not to like it. If someone else likes it, it's not your place to bash them for it. Just because you are like the standard hater train rider that loves to put down anything that doesn't meet your personal standards, doesn't mean people can't like that same game.

Louis CK sums it up best about this country:
http://grooveshark.com/#!/s/Cell+Phones+And+Flying/3wN7kw?src=5
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Posted: Jan 23rd 2012 7:45AM Negatron said

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@Traptz

You have no MMO experience, you just talk. Frigging Google'er...


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Posted: Jan 22nd 2012 11:11PM Khal said

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Oh, so they changed the name of it to Rakzombies? WOW!!! I didn't see that anywhere!

Wait, nevermind. It's still RakGHOUL.

I mean seriously, some of you people, and I direct this mainly at the writers here, have to make an effort to go out of your way to call a spade a heart. That or you are undead-challenged, in which case give back half of your nerd/geek card.

Posted: Jan 22nd 2012 11:57PM commonperson said

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@Khal Rhakghouls aren't even undead. They are bitten and infected with the virus that alters them geneticaly (and as established in other SW Lore they change differently based on species.) Kind of like Dragon Age in fact. :-P But they aren't even undead, even the definition of Ghoul (outside D&D) has nothing to do with undead. They are demonic beings who feast on the flesh of humans.
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Posted: Jan 23rd 2012 3:27AM (Unverified) said

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@commonperson
Sounds like you're quibbling. They're zombies in style, if not by definition.
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Posted: Jan 23rd 2012 2:00PM Khal said

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@commonperson

I see your point. That said, they most certainly are not "demons". One way or another they are infected, either by some man-made virus or via a bite from some other form of undead. Yes, while they are not technically "dead", they have in near unaimous cases been associated with the Undead, which is my point of reference.
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Posted: Jan 23rd 2012 2:03PM Khal said

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I don't agree that they are zombies in "style". If anything the man-machine creatures of the Infinite Empire are more like zombies in style. The Rakghouls hop around and RUN around like...well...ghouls!
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Posted: Jan 22nd 2012 11:45PM (Unverified) said

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Cancelled my sub and taking another break from MMOs.....didnt play one for 2 years prior to SWTOR and I've been around since the UO days.

The game all around was poorly designed...from the barren worlds, to the repetitive questing (they didnt even try to get imaginative here), to the microsoft paint backdrops, to the mazed heavily instanced environments, gimmicky combat, lack of diversity (every class/model looks identical), basic functionality (shift-click in chat), talent trees..., itemization, end game grind.....

The MMO genre needs a revolution from its old paradigm quickly...or it will be nothing more than a niche market, where a SINGLE developer once got lucky in.

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