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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 2:34PM Lenn said

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Another analyst strikes.

Posted: Jan 19th 2012 2:42PM Deliverator said

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@Lenn
just a little bit of a difference here - not a video game analyst - a stock analyst. The article is from the WSJ here's their ticker:
http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/EA
$17.25 and falling ATM

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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 2:46PM pcgneurotic said

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@Deliverator

It always is the business analysts mouthing-off about videogames, hence the subtle sarcasm of Lenn's statement (the dry understatement of which caused me to actually Laugh Out Loud. Good on ya Lenn!).
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 2:50PM Lenn said

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@Deliverator Stock analysts are even worse. Probably the most powerful human beings on the planet and none of them knows how to handle that power.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 2:56PM Deliverator said

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@pcgneurotic
I really don't think that much thought went into it. I'd have gone with The Analyst Strikes Back
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 3:01PM Deliverator said

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@Lenn
Who knows, maybe he was a fed up player as well.
Maybe he had a game turned into a coaster because his kid swore on their forums.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 3:04PM Lenn said

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@Deliverator At whom?
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 3:30PM Deliverator said

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@Lenn
looks like he's been analyzing Video Game related stocks for at least 5 years
http://seekingalpha.com/author/todd-mitchell/articles
Here's his Bloomburg page:
http://topics.bloomberg.com/todd-mitchell/
Doesn't seem like a slacker (or anyone who'd let a coastered game affect his opinion for that matter)

I don't have any horses in the race, so I'm just interested in what's going on. I did say earlier that I'd never let another EA product in my house, but that's just kind of unrealistic. If the corp tanked we'd all lose some pretty cool stuff. Lately, EA has been pretty heavy handed and secretive all around. I wonder if it's biting them in the butt? Their hype machine reached a enormous audience this time - not just us. It seems like the public forum footprint for SWTOR would be proportionally as large. Maybe forum rants have an impact.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 3:44PM arrrgh said

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@Lenn

At anyone EA.

They can lock you out of any and all games simply due to forum conduct. Insane.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 3:48PM pcgneurotic said

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@Deliverator

Yes, but that's trying to be funny. Lenn was funny precisely because he wasn't trying. Of course, his delivery is subjective because we read it rather than heard it, but I swear I can see invisible ellipses up there...
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 4:04PM Lenn said

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@pcgneurotic Not trying to be funny. I just get really nervous whenever an article reads "analysts say...", whether it's about gaming or not. We (global "we", not just us Massively commenters) put way too much stock (yes, a pun) into what "analysts" say. A stock analyst who says "this will go bad" pretty much starts off a chain of events that will culminate in a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 4:13PM Alph said

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@Lenn
I wish I could rate your comment up higher than the 3 green circles it already has.

Screaming "FIRE!" or "BOMB!" is illegal... must be fun to get away with it when you're called an 'analyst'.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 4:28PM Concerns said

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Here is what happened yesterday:

The new patch 1.1 broke Ilum. With this "miracle" patch that was supposed to make everything better, due to faction imbalances that Bioware failed to design around, Republic were getting steamrolled in Ilum for hours and hours while Empire was gaining massive amounts of valor, enough for full sets of the best gear in the game. Ton's of people did this and this will set the landscape of PvP for the entire future of the game. Bioware's response? Said they were investigating "potential" issues and would come back with an official response "shortly." Nothing happened for 8 hours. All the while people on the forums DEMANDING a rollback.

Bioware comes back 8 hours later, doesn't even acknowledge that people had gained massive amounts of valor, does not announce a roll back. They had ONE get out of jail free card and they didn't take advantage of it. If that is not cause for concern about the future of the game I don't know what is. They had the chance to show everyone they could deliver and they FAILED.

After that, people started unsubscribing. That is when magically the button to unsubscribe in account settings disappeared. When people found a workaround by entering the URL directly, Bioware locked EVERY SINGLE THREAD on the topic and instead directed everyone to customer service (like that would ever help). They HAD the solution in front of them and Bioware actively tried to hide it.

That is when Bioware announced they were starting with the founders program. Of course, simply buying the game doesn't mean you are a founder, huh? You have to subscribe.

Later, the forums were completely taken down. Now they are back up and Bioware has issued a new PR video. Brilliant.

There are far more details to the story than this, too. Such as the UI having bugs with improperly displaying cooldowns, the anti-aliasing having piss poor performance.

Dont try and tell me you can't anticipate how people will react. Bioware is perfectly content with evading issues and treating their followers like dirt.

Investors may not know much but if they know what I know they would be dropping them faster than they are now. SWTOR is a dud and Bioware has shown they have no capacity to fix anything.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 4:51PM Lenn said

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@Concerns Posting the same wall of text below two stories doesn't make your points any more valid.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 6:03PM Concerns said

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@Lenn
No, the fact that I know what happened makes them valid. Now, you on the other hand are clueless and plugging your ears.
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Posted: Jan 19th 2012 11:48PM SgtBaker1234556 said

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@Concerns

You sound angry and overly dramatic. It's just a game man. Go outside and get some fresh air.

And take off that tinfoil hat.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2012 2:13AM Sabbatai said

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@SgtBaker1234556 SWTOR is a game. THIS is a discussion about that game and dude presented facts.. not opinions.

I am enjoying the game despite some performance issues, but that doesn't change the fact that you ARE plugging your ears like many other fans.

Obviously I'd like to see the game succeed as a fan myself.

It looks like it could go either way at the moment though and blind faith will not help.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2012 9:32AM Lenn said

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@Sabbatai He posted a few facts in between quite a bit of biased garbage. That does not make him right.
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Posted: Jan 20th 2012 11:44AM wahahabuh said

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@Lenn he's a stock analyst, they make predictions. You never know whether or not they're right until some time has passed
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Posted: Jan 20th 2012 12:36PM Seare said

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@Concerns

Dude get a life. Every MMO Developer has made mistakes. If you expect them to be perfect, then you have lost touch with reality. They have said they are taking action against individuals that took extreme advantage of the situation. They aren't going to punish everyone and they aren't going to give details about individual actions they take against people. If you can't handle a few bumps in the road then get the heck off, you don't belong here.
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