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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 11:01AM blix2006 said

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wow those mountains look like crap lol

Posted: Jan 17th 2012 11:13AM Lenn said

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@blix2006 wow what a totally unnecessary and obnoxious thing to say lol
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 11:23AM Floop the Squirrel said

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@blix2006

'cause graphics mean everything in a game, right?
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 11:51AM (Unverified) said

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@blix2006 because you can terraform that!!
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 2:32PM blix2006 said

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@(Unverified) no graphics are not everything but when they are this painful.....
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 12:00PM Spacegrass said

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They do realize it's 2012, right? I realize that graphics aren't everything, but this game looks 10 years old.

Posted: Jan 17th 2012 12:21PM (Unverified) said

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@Spacegrass You do realize its was mostly made by one guy. Indie sandboxes value gameplay over graphics.
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 12:23PM Greymantle said

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Open world pvp killed any chance of my wife and I trying this game. I don't understand why all sandbox type games think they need open world pvp. One day I hope in my life time I will get to play a game like SWG again. The search continues..........

Posted: Jan 17th 2012 12:39PM Jef Reahard said

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@Greymantle

I've been on both sides of the sandbox FFA PvP issue, but I tend to agree here lately. What I don't get is why PvPers feel the need to migrate to every new sandbox and attempt to take it over.

This behavior is especially ridiculous in Xsyon, which was designed to be a crafting-focused virtual world, not (another) red-equals-dead murder sim with no point to any of the murdering.

PvP is in virtually every MMO (not to mention all the MMO-lite shooters), and some do it really well, so why not stick with one of those?
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 12:55PM Zantom said

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@Greymantle

Yeah, SWG is going to be hard to replace. Open world pvp does not need to exist for it to be a sandbox game either.
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 12:56PM Lenn said

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@Jef Reahard Certain PvPers seem to think "easy prey" when they see a title like this. It's the same reason why those people roll on RPPvP servers in other games.
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 12:57PM (Unverified) said

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@Jef Reahard Have any of you guys played the game? The only open pvp areas is the territory outside of your Tribe's land, which can be quite large depending on how big the tribe is. Also, it is primarily a crafting/building sandbox and isn't really focused on the PvP. I mean the combat system isn't even 'done' yet. There's also the fact that if you kill anyone and decide to take their stuff, you'll be overburdened with weight and the crawl back to your tribe's land is a long one.

PvP isn't the focus of this game at all, don't let it scare you off. You have huge safe-zones to stay in if you like, and can venture out if you're feeling brave. Think of it like Wurum with PvP added on. Not many Wurum players would be compelled to go out and kill others, as it's not the focus of the game just like Xsyon.
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 12:59PM (Unverified) said

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@Lenn You have somewhat of a misconception there. PvPers like to play against worthy opponents. Most PvP gamers dont look for easy kills like you implied, at least not the ones playing sandbox PvP games.

It sounds like you had a bad experience with a jerk ganking your character in some themepark game. The sandbox community is beyond that, for the most part. There will always be one or two internet-jerks, but we should be used to that by now.
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 1:08PM Jef Reahard said

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Yeah I've played the game, quite a lot tbh.

I've encountered some PvP, but not much simply due to the huge size of the world. I should have clarified my earlier comment, I guess. I see a lot of PvP advocates on the Xsyon forums, and it gets really old. That's not the focus of this game, and yet there they are trying to make it the focus.
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 1:12PM Mtor said

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@Jef Reahard Why do people play a game with pvp and then complain when they get ganked? You knew it was a possibility going in, so why get emo about it after the fact?

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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 1:18PM Jef Reahard said

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@Mtor

Where did I (or anyone) complain about being ganked?

I asked why players who prefer PvP travel to every new sandbox that comes out and seek to make PvP the focus (regardless of the intended design).
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 1:19PM (Unverified) said

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@Jef Reahard yeah that wasn't directed at you perse, I just clicked the reply for your comment
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 1:22PM Jef Reahard said

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Ah, fair enough.

/tiphat
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 1:22PM (Unverified) said

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@Jef Reahard I do agree that it's odd that there are as many pvp-advocates in the community as you claim. The focus clearly isn't PvP, and there's plenty of other PvP focues sandboxes too...

I guess they want a game with the crafting/build AND PvP. You can't blame them for wanting that, I do too. It will be interesting to see how the game develops and if they will begin to cater to the PvPers as they further develop the games combat.
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 1:23PM Lenn said

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@(Unverified) You must be one of them, I assume.
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