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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 9:12PM Braiks said

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This must be called Martial Empires in Europe, the one by gamigo.

Posted: Jan 17th 2012 9:31PM Matix said

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Oh look, another WOW clone! RAWR!

*looks down at the script. switches pages from subscription MMOs to the ones for F2P*

Oh look, another pay to win game! RAWR!


I don't know, maybe I'm jaded.

Millions of MMORPG players crying out for "innovation" but they can't agree what that means. And when a MMO *IS* innovative, players don't support it. Instead, players run back to the games with the most polish, grumbling the whole way. Game companies are reinforced on what the critics call "WOW clones" and "pay-to-wins" making innovation further away than ever. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Always, always repeat...

Posted: Jan 17th 2012 9:48PM Alex Oglitchkin said

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@Matix The MMO market can't get more innovated. What could you possibly think of that would innovate a game that would seriously work and get people attached to the game to make it serious money? You should be happy they haven't started using Kinect for an MMO.
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 9:52PM Matix said

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@Alex Oglitchkin That was what I just said. Glad you agree. XD

To reiterate my point: Whatever innovation is, nobody can agree on. What is clear is that calling everything a "Wow clone" and/or "pay to win" is only reinforcing the idea among game companies to steer clear of whatever the kark "innovation" is.
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 11:06PM hassaun2006 said

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@Matix there's only one or two games coming out that have attempted to address innovation in any real ways, and i hope and pray both of them are successful (even if it isn't as wildly explosive as I believe it should prove to be, I'll be playing GW2 for a long long time) because both of them will be the idea bulb that re-awakens an entire genre to try to truly achieve something new.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2012 1:33AM Tizmah said

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@hassaun2006 I don't really think there is anything "new" to be done, but simply regaining visions lost before.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2012 6:11AM Purkit said

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@Matix

I largely agree with you, however I'm not so sure about this:

"And when a MMO *IS* innovative, players don't support it."

It could be argued that some indie studios have released titles which are innovative, Xsyon would be a good example. Unfortunately most are broken and poorly implemented IMO. It also seems no one can innovate in this industry without making a hardcore PvP sandbox style game, minus most of the sandbox.

Don't get me wrong, I applaud the efforts of indie companies to innovate. I've bought a few of the more interesting ones, even knowing they wouldn't be for me. I just don't think its fair to say players don't support innovation when the only choice on the 'innovation shelf' is the flawed product.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2012 8:26AM Matix said

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"I just don't think its fair to say players don't support innovation when the only choice on the 'innovation shelf' is the flawed product."

@Purkit That's the polish issue, and exactly my point. You aren't going to get a perfect game out the rip. New game mechanics are uncharted territory. There are going to be flaws, that's the nature of an MMO game.

For a developer it's a scary proposition to try something new. Making something new run without a hitch takes takes time and mass-player input that you just don't get from a beta. By and large, game after game, players don't stick around long enough to give the input and financial support the developers need to tweak this stuff. This isn't the EQ, or even the height of the WOW era anymore: competition is ultra fierce. If it's not perfect, players have other games to go to. Developers no longer have the time to work the kinks out of a new mechanic.

And that's assuming it's what the bulk of players even want. "Players" is a broad term used to describe many subsets and tastes. I'm not trying to give a pass to developers that don't bring their game up to industry snuff (*cough*--SWTOR PVP--*cough*) but trying to please enough people to make a base is rough enough with disparate tastes. Throw in the fickleness of the microwave--"Why isn't this 'never-tried-before' mechanic perfect at launch?"--mentality and it's a mess.
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Posted: Jan 18th 2012 10:31AM corpusc said

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@Purkit

right on the money. pretty much all the innovative MMOs (SO far) are fatally flawed.

its not a big surprise that people go to the polished same ole same ole than spend money altruistically on games they won't play, simply just to support any type of innovation cuz they philosophically support that general idea.
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 9:59PM edgecrusherO0 said

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Well, the production value seems *slightly* higher than your standard generic F2P Korean MMO...but it still looks almost identical to about a hundred other generic Korean MMO's out there : /

Posted: Jan 17th 2012 11:02PM DevilSei said

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Eh, I still prefer Requiem Online's gore to this. There is nothing satisfying after seeing an enemy explode like that after a few kills. Its like changing the finishers from Dragon Age into the "random gibb-splosion" in DA2. You'll go "Haha!" but it wears off quick.
Also, watching the lower half of an enemy bug out and start humping its other half? Priceless.

Otherwise... eh. I really wish there was more to the trailer than just a bunch of the blood sprays. It shows off a bit of a diverse environment, character models seem to look decent enough. There's a mount system, and perhaps jumping to dodge...?

Posted: Jan 17th 2012 11:26PM alucard3000 said

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@DevilSei Just look up Martial Empires on youtube if you want to see what it plays like, its the same game.
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Posted: Feb 20th 2012 4:47AM CharlotteHeart said

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@DevilSei
You have a point there good sir, i was expecting more too. since it looks promising. They should have added more features of the game..
i might check it out myself.. no harm in trying :)
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Posted: Jan 18th 2012 2:13AM Traptz said

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Is that the same engine Rift uses? Looks identical.

Posted: Jan 18th 2012 5:55PM Ghostspeaker said

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Absolutely love the art direction. I might give it a shot.

Posted: Jan 22nd 2012 9:17AM drunkingamebar said

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Ugh, that *Shink!* sounds is over used. Headache Online for sure.

Posted: Feb 17th 2012 5:35AM scrapbuks09 said

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WOW! cool ^^ I have read the event announcement. A total of 7 Apple iPad 2’s are up for grabs!! The most helpful members of our community will be selected as winners. (See OFFICIAL RULES for eligibility details) too good to be true!

Posted: Feb 17th 2012 5:42AM scrapbuks09 said

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WOW! cool ^^ I have read the event announcement. A total of 7 Apple iPad 2’s are up for grabs!! The most helpful members of our community will be selected as winners. (See OFFICIAL RULES for eligibility details) too good to be true!

Posted: Feb 21st 2012 7:21PM ayahfuentes20 said

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the game might look interesting but as I saw martial empire they are look the same, hopefully it would not turn both the features of the game.. :

Posted: Feb 23rd 2012 12:22AM draydenadler said

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I don't think it was pretty good to give it a shot it was just a revived by martial empire...

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