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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 5:14PM (Unverified) said

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Actually the Hall of Monuments provides more than cosmetic goodies and titles, the first 5 or 6 points provides a piece of armor per point. The armor is the Heritage set. This armor can be applied to all characters based on the armor class of the profession. There are also other armor pieces as well as weapons that can be gotten with higher point levels. The 30th point, which is the last of the reward pieces, gives you a nice Vambrace. After 30, you just get a title for every 5th point till you max out at 50 (which thankfully I've done). But you are right, most of the rewards are titles and other goodies.

I really like how the tie in with GW1 will work with GW2. It adds in another level of immersion to the game(s).

I do love the little hint we have about the rough time when the game will be released. The 3rd novel was scheduled for December, however, when they changed authors that date got pushed to August of 2012. They dropped a little hin, (albeit possibly unintentional) because they said that the "original" intent was to have the third novel out before GW2's release, thus meaning that the new novel release date falls after when they hope to release the game.

Posted: Jan 16th 2012 5:20PM (Unverified) said

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All of which will probably have, at best, stats that scale comparably with similar gear, or more realistically, be level 1 gear that you'll have to use transmutation stones on to get any worth out of past the tutorial.
Hence, cosmetic.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 5:25PM (Unverified) said

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No where has that been said. That's mere speculation. But the fact that there is armor (and even more armor which seems to be better at higher point levels) as well as weapons (quite a number of weapons, seemingly more than 1 per profession) is something that is more than cosmetic.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 5:58PM Eamil said

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They actually have said that all of the HoM gear will be low-level equipment and that it will have stats comparable to other gear of that level. So the point is getting the equipment won't give you any kind of real advantage over other players, even if by your definition it's not strictly "cosmetic."
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 6:15PM (Unverified) said

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@Eamil
I never said anything about it offering an advantage.

And my "definition" isn't the issue. If something is of use, it by the very nature of it is not cosmetic. Costumes, pets, those are cosmetic. Armor, low level or not, is not cosmetic. Or do you claim that low level armor in any game is cosmetic?
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 6:29PM DevilSei said

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Armor in GW1 was cosmetic. Sure the armor value helps, but the major part of it was always inscriptions/emblems and the like.

GW2? Its cosmetic.
Just like the armor whose looks you can transmute in say, World of Warcraft, can be cosmetic. NO ONE is grabbing the Heirloom gear for the possible stats, NO ONE is grabbing the bow or the sword for its stats. It's completely for a cosmetic reason.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 8:07PM yeppers said

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@DevilSei

Did you ever play WoW? The heirloom gear was MOST CERTAINLY used ONLY for its stats for any level pre-80... especially for PvP. WoW was always 95% gear-stat-centric. Maybe cosmetically only while you were sitting in the main cities.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 8:30PM Calen said

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@yeppers This isn't WoW. Guild Wars is an entirly different game. All "end-game" armor has the same stats.

End-game will be about cosmetic upgrade and status, titles and such. I'd be willing to put money on that statement. That is what Arenanet does.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 10:35PM Irem said

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The armor and weapons are functionally cosmetic because their only purpose is to give you neat skins to transfer to your GW2 weapons. That's why people really don't make a distinction when talking about them.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 10:46PM DevilSei said

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@yeppers

I don't know how I can really reword what I said to make it any more clearer to you. The entire point behind the heirloom gear was Blizz trying to side-step the whole "style page" people were wanting. Its why several pieces of popular armor got the Heirloom treatment. I didn't nab the Tattered Dreadmist shoulders just for the bonus XP, but because I liked the look of it and wanted that style consistently. Same with the weapon my priest alt is currently rolling with.

But baseless assumption of yours aside, you're missing the point entirely. The Parent post this is all under is arguing as if the Heirloom armor (name of the stuff, that's it) will actually provide some awesome stats, same as the weapons. While they may have stats on them, people aren't working towards the Felblade for the possible stats, its for the weapons appearance. THEY are working towards a cosmetic goal, so trying to claim its for a stat-based one is, besides being far too early to say, is a little on the dull side of the nail.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 11:04PM Braiks said

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@DevilSei Sorry, no. The only reason people bought the heirloom gear was for stats and the xp boost.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 11:48PM (Unverified) said

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You're wrong on several counts. No where in my post will you see where I said the Heritage and other armor pieces and weapons will provide "awesome stats".

My only point was the fact that Rubi said the HoM "might only award titles and cosmetic goodies". Well, armor, regardless of whether it's max level, is not cosmetic. Never has that term ever been applied in any game where an item provides some stat benefit. The entire point of cosmetic items is that the provide nothing in terms of actual gameplay. Heritage, even if it is only starter armor, will still have an armor rating, and whatever other stats arenanet places on it. That makes it by the very definition, NOT cosmetic.

And I assume you never really played WoW if you thought heirloom gear was cosmetic. The heirloom pieces were based off Tier 0 gear, much of it rather ugly in appearance. The entire point of it was the opposite of cosmetic. They provided XP boosts and the stats increased based on the player level, and were almost always better than even blue items of equivalent level. Even if, say at level 25, you found a blue piece of gear that was slighly better than heirloom gear, in a few minutes you would be level 26 and the heirloom gear would raise it's stats and be better than the blue.
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 12:40AM Irem said

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The only difference between the HoM armor and the lowbie armor you get playing the game is -cosmetic,- which is why people are using that term. It's really not worth nitpicking over whether or not it has stats, because functionally they're just different armor skins. I imagine if they weren't usable without transmutation at all (i.e. no stats, period) it would seem a little cheap, because you wouldn't be able to use something you'd earned without either spending money or karma to get a stone, which is too much to ask of a starting player.
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Posted: Jan 29th 2012 9:54AM Khetnen said

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The gear is probably "decent" starting gear, similar to the /bonus weapons in GW1. It is known that stats can be transferred to that gear WITHOUT the use of transmutation stones, so you can keep using this armor thought the whole game, but it will not give you an advantage.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 5:25PM h4ngedm4n said

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So, is Rubi 50/50 yet?

Posted: Jan 16th 2012 5:54PM Pyzlnar said

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@h4ngedm4n According to a recent episode on Guildcast she almost is at 50... on her second account. XD

I'm curious to know why she has 2 accs tho. @_@
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 6:02PM Rubi said

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@Pyzlnar I can answer that one! ;-) I've had my main account for a long time, and it's the one at 50/50. In May of 2010 I purchased an account to be dedicated solely to Massively and the Massively guild. Obviously I didn't want to use my personal/private account for work stuff. The Massively-only account is at 28/50 currently.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 6:11PM Joaquin Crowe said

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@Pyzlnar because b2p is awesome?
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 6:17PM (Unverified) said

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@Pyzlnar
One possible reason she has 2 is because when GW was released, you had four character slots max per account. You could not purchase character slots then so the only alternative was to buy a new account. That's why I have 3, although 2 are prophecies only.
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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 6:23PM Pyzlnar said

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@Rubi Ooooh that explains it. Thanks! :)
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