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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:28PM Ocho said

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@Yellowdancer Gear that can easily be earned in game. There might be more they're not showing, but they are pure leveling items only. Definitely not P2W.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:32PM (Unverified) said

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@Ocho

Its a step towards P2W. Not before long, if people starts bying this item, theyll add more higher lvl items and so on
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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:27PM (Unverified) said

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I said this the day they announced F2P. One thing will lead to another, they will "test" the players and add more stuff with a little "carrot" to make them buy it. Soon it will lead to items that you will need to stay competative (Asian upgrade scrolls etc) Ive seen it in so many mmos now, and it happens in EVERY F2P game. (GW is not really F2P)

But all the fanboys were like "nooo you fool, that wont happen, they promised us!"

Yea..

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:27PM (Unverified) said

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Remember that recent post about Devs trolling...

Just Sayin'

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:29PM (Unverified) said

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Then they make the "normal" way of getting the gear such a extremly tedious grind with a very small % for the item to drop that people becomes frustrated and just buys it in the item shop instead

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:30PM Lenn said

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@(Unverified) Crafted gear is far superior and very easy to get. This makes no sense.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:34PM (Unverified) said

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@Lenn

When they add higher level items
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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:44PM Lenn said

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@(Unverified) It would still be comparable to crafted armour. That tier II stuff up there in the screenshot is comparable to level 17 critted crafted armour. LotRO's crafting, unlike many other games, is actually worthwhile. Even the highest level craftables are comparable to raid-quality gear. Seriously, anyone spending their points on that stuff is being swindled. And this from someone with a lifetime sub to LotRO.

If I didn't know better, I'd say this smells of Jeffrey "let's see what we can get away with" Steefel, but he's no longer working on LotRO.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:32PM Harley Dude said

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So...tier III is equal to about, what...level 20 gear? How long do you think it will be before higher tier armor is available?

I had considered keeping my LotRO sub with TOR, but they just lost another sub. Not quite as money grubbing as AoC, but still the last straw for me.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:42PM Amlin said

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F2P games can get away with anything since the majority of players in mmos don't read up on blogs or debate the gaming politics. Simply most don't care. Lotro will make money just like any other F2P game out there.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:44PM (Unverified) said

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Another title goes down the pay-2-win route. Not really surprising. All so-called free to play games eventually succumb to greed and destroy their game/community in the process.

What is sad, is that LOTRO was the game every free-to-play model supporter pointed at as an example of how this kind of model could be done without going down the greedy-bastard route.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:47PM Lenn said

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@(Unverified) I'm not too happy about this, though I can understand the reasoning (see update above), but "pay to win"? Win what, exactly?
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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:47PM Paeroka said

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Why not give gear for tasks? Or add better or just more equipment with quests? Or skirmishes? Or think about why the AH activity is low and do something about that. There are so many things they could have done.

Yet, they opted to simply put those items to their store. Lazy and, of course, the better alternative for them as it gives them more money.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:59PM Lenn said

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@Paeroka Good points. Skirmish reward armour has always been kinda meh. They could have done something with that.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 7:26PM (Unverified) said

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@Lenn
The simplest solution of all would have been to increase the drop rate of crit components.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:51PM Silverangel said

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Turbine--boldly forging the future of the F2P revolution, and incidentally testing whether company integrity and reputation matters at all in MMO's when it comes to making a profit.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:53PM Angn said

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It was stupid to even humour promises made by companies. Developers, managers, producers, and directors come and go. No one individual speaks with binding representation for the entire company, and vice versa.

It certainly makes for good blog fodder, but this is a dead horse. LOTRO's destiny is in the hands of Turbine. For better or for worse, here it is, let the market (that means you and I, LOTRO players) work.

"Another win for the almighty dollar. " You betcha. That's exactly how it should work. If it's good, it will succeed, if it's bad it won't. With so many games around, trust to people's selfishness to make the right choices for themselves.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 5:01PM NeverDeath said

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I bet a lot of the people who were tolerating LotRO's terrible character models, stiff animations, inconsistent lighting and disconnected controls are going to have to add one more strike against Turbine. Might be the straw that breaks the camel's back, for some. I know I couldn't get past how dated it felt (even when it was new), but any game that is pay to win can only hold my interest for so long, especially when gear is the way it's handled.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 5:03PM Oranuro said

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AHhaaahahahahhaahahhahaa,(breathe) ahahahahahahahahahhhahhaaaahhhh!

Who's up next to do the same?

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 5:08PM scfs123 said

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Looks like LOTRO is after the great white whale.

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