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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 3:59PM Nickelpat said

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Awesome. It used to be a great game, I actually loved the payment model, buying bits of content as you played, but now.... Not touching it again, I doubt I'll touch anything with Turbine's name again.

They make quality games, but as a consumer my only voice is that of my dollar.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:01PM Valdin said

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I have to agree with several of the comments. I'm not seeing the point of introducing something like this. Crafted lvl 20 armor is far more affordable and isn't far on stats. Quest gear would surpass it in another level or two as well.
As Ehra says above, "Just dumb."

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:03PM Plastic said

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No anger, no rage, no tears, but I'm out. So long LoTRO, It was a good run while it lasted, but this and the recent gambling scheme are indications that WB/Turbine are taking the game in a direction I don't care to support.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:05PM Sunlover said

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The Lord of the Rings has been a disappointingly sub-par game for far too long, along with D&D Online, in my humble opinion. Character design is bland to terrible, animations are meh, the game looks great in screenshots but never looked as good on my actual screen while playing, the music, while good in some areas, was downright horrible, synthesized garbage in others, not to mention some terrible game mechanics, a broken business model, sound effects, or the terrible user interface and STILL blurry text used since day one.

There were some good, and even a few great things, about LOTRO. Still, not enough to warrant further attention or money given to Turbine (again, this is in my very humble opinion!). It's time for both LOTRO and DDO to go the way of the dinosaur and hope that one day both licenses get the proper MMO games they always deserved.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:38PM Anax said

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@Sunlover I agree. I played this game for a while and found it very weirdly klunky. It was really fun for a short while. Then the annoy synthesized music, bland character models, and unbelievably grindy quests really started to get to me. Some of the crafting professions are punishingly boring (farming!) and much of what you can craft is useless to you because, by the time you can craft it, you've outleveled it.

I am waiting for EQ Next, hoping that it lives up to the standard EQ II set: orchestral music, at least some voice acting, gorgeous visuals (for their time), accommodation for many styles of play, player housing, and a really huge, varied world to explore. I sincerely hope it will not be free-to-play.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:05PM Hipster said

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Glad I stopped playing after Mirkwood as well.

Moria was the last time Lotro was great.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:09PM smartstep said

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Hehehehehe not surprised.

While this is low-level stuff, when higher level armors will hit store?

How you think? 2 months from now on? 5 months?

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:10PM Cristian Ceo said

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Meh i was keeping LOTRO on my hdd and i was playing once in a while. I even bought Isengard even though i didn't play it that much. I'm waiting to see how this develops and if it goes the way i expect it i will delete the game from my hdd and never look back ;)

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:13PM (Unverified) said

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Somehow I can see Kotick keeping an eye on this and if it turns out to be a moneymaker for LoTR, I would expect to see tier gear available on the Blizz store before long.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:18PM dudes said

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P2W

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:21PM hami83 said

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Pay to win people. Those low level people will totally pay to wind that PvE content, and they'll totally dominate PvP at low levels.

Oh wait. There is no PvP in the game that can be ruined by this. Or wait, it's not max level either.

So, basically haters gonna hate.

I would, however, have no objection to people seeing this as a red flag, and the worry that there may in fact be pay to win max level gear in the future, which I somehow doubt will happen, but you never know.

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:28PM DoctorSmart said

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@hami83 It's not the pay2win factor that concerns me. It's that this is clearly designed to take advantage of people who don't know better and get them to spend money on equipment they don't need. Yeah, ok, those of us who are savvy enough to visit forums/sites may know better then to spend the TP on this, but what about the more casual gamers? It's not quite on the level of Bigpoint, but it is a line in the sand for me.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 6:02PM happyfish said

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@DoctorSmart I'm not sure if turbine is trying to sucker newbies but I do think something else to address is Sapience's comment on how the items are intented to fill the void of quality crafted items that the newer players are looking for. I think it exposes a fundamental problem with f2p is instead of overhauling mechanics that players arent finding fun, you just bypass expenisve design solutions by selling "convienences" to the player. f2p is essentially a meta-game where you not only juggle the game, but how much you are willing to spend in the pursuit of progress.

In other words rather than overhauling the crafting system so it is more active and dynamic at all levels, a truly immersive world economy, Turbines solution is to shrug their shoulders and sell gear. They did the same thing with the LI system essentially saying (IMO) yeah it sucks, but you can buy your way out of the suck, so that makes it ok.

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Posted: Jan 16th 2012 3:00AM OutThere said

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@happyfish

Well said. And exactly right.

What in the world are they thinking?
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Posted: Jan 17th 2012 10:18AM Softserve said

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@hami83 I agree with your general sentiment, but this game does not have low level PvP. It's designed to be played by people at or very near the level cap. In that sense, better Level 20 gear isn't going to actually going to affect other people directly... It's more its indirect, obnoxious effect that bothers me.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:22PM valestorm said

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I have seen this in two other games i used to play.
At first ..no gear in cash shop. Then they introduce something similar to gear in an event ..people dying to buy it..OMG short time only..must have for my...farming/grinding/RP-er/insert whatever alt you have here. Company says..wow...awesome event we had...double the income. Ok, after a month: "because you wanted it...this gear will be permanent adition to the shop". Everybody..horrayyy...my noobie char is happy.
One more month and they increase the level of the gear..no more lvl 20 gear..now we have mid level gear. Fans will continue to sustain that in game gear is better...company adds better gear "to help even the CASUAL gamer to be on par with hardcorer"...and so on..and so on. Until the point of having two possble paths...the all grind gear and all cash shop gear
"Casuals" will keep buying and the company to enjoy it's profits.
Hopefully with lotro will be different but...i don't see how as long as the shop gear will sell very good

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:23PM dudes said

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One cannot simply buy into Mordor

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 10:06PM Nenene said

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@dudes
There is evil there that does not sleep....and the great Kotick is ever-watchful.
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Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:24PM Yellowdancer said

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Someone help me out with LOTRO...as I do not play it. Are these stats P2W or like EQ2 in that this gear can be earned at level 5?

Posted: Jan 13th 2012 4:27PM Ehra said

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@Yellowdancer

This is super low level gear, like maybe around level 20? Hence my confusion in my previous posts. Honestly, I think this has upset me more than if they had just sold endgame gear. At least that makes sense from a pragmatic point of view. The only people I could see buying this are new players that don't know what a waste it is.
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