Gods & Heroes crucifies subs and slashes box prices

@edgecrusherO0

funny. they kept saying that about subscription model MMOs ever since the 2nd or 3rd one came out..

THAT actually wasn't a completely insane idea, altho it was very wrong. afterall, most peoples money is budgeted/limited.

the idea that there can be TOO MANY FREE choices is quite insane.

@corpusc

No, no it's not. The games need to be profitable to stay in business. Look at f2p games like Faxxion Online, Mythos (which is coming back AGAIN), or the handfuls of other MMO's that have closed their doors because they weren't profitable. If there are 1,000 f2p MMO's, but only enough money to sustain 500 of them, the other half will close down because they are just money sinks for the developers/publishers.

The pie is only so big. Think of it like the dot com bubble or the housing bubble, eventually it will get too big, and see a crash. The crash will mainly stifle new games from coming out primarily, but will probably also see a number of other games shut down. As each game pulls users away from other games, the profits get more and more diluted until the game is no longer profitable and will need to be shut down.

@edgecrusherO0

Actually, that's not entirely true. It's not a zero-sum game... people tend to try many MMOs, and as long as every body gets enough money, it works out.

By all accounts, MMOs like LOTR, City of Heroes, and Age of Conan all did BETTER after going "free to play".

http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08/11/age-of-conan-unchained-conquers-300-000-new-players-doubles-re/

@Mordakai

Correct, because freemium was a better model for the game than only subscriptions. I won't argue that the market isn't going towards f2p, because it totally is. That being said though, there can only be so many f2p games before there starts to be a glut. Each f2p game needs to be profitable, and if there are too many of them (have you seen the sheer number of f2p games that are out or coming out? especially from Korea, it's kinda nuts) there is a good chance that money will be spread too thin and there will be more game closures. We've already seen plenty of f2p game close their doors because they weren't profitable. I can definitely see this happening more often in the future.

@Mordakai All those games aren't totally half-baked and have popularity behind it.

@(Unverified)
Hah!

And that's 1/2 the problem with this game.

@Space Cobra

The game just came out about 5 years too late and looks it. Sadly, while I do appreciate the concepts of this game (mythology ancient world setting, squad management, etc.), the final product was only mediocre at best.

As it stands now, it's a game I would not even play for free.

@Plastic What about both? Incompetent for making a half-baked game, unscrupulous for trying to milk it.

@Plastic Incomprupulous.

@Lenn Word of the day!

@OutThere

It did improve over time, but there were no updates since Sept-ish to the game, but it's pretty stale. Other than questing upto L30 (right now), there's nothing to do. I do enjoy the setting, the quests could be hard (sometimes due to bugs *grin*), graphics were acceptable (SWTOR is not all that shiny, IMO), but the potential kept me around.

@jimr9999us Actually, one of the two remaining players left due to the stigma associated with F2P titles.

Don't mistake this as a sign that Heatwave will invest any more resources in the title. They're just trying to sell off physical inventory and hope to recoup the loss with a few extra digital sales.

A subscription was never necessary for this game in the first place, as it features less than a month's worth of content.