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Posted: Jan 12th 2012 8:20AM shmegger said

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The title of the article should have been 'does Sony troll their fans'. Sony has really proven over the years their increasing disregard for their fan base. Early expansions doubled the size of the game. The last expansion added nothing but kitties.

Posted: Jan 12th 2012 8:36AM alzeer said

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saw it few times in ff14
one of the NPC asked : why did you come to this part of the zone? and don't say for the scenery because all zone looks the same (making fun of their copy/paste zone)

Posted: Jan 12th 2012 11:56AM Irem said

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@alzeer
Yeah, they had a joke about jumping, too. I don't know if it was in the original or whether the NA translation team was poking fun, or whose expense the jokes were at (their own or the fans'), but either way, considering how things went, they were -really- testing the limits of people's senses of humor.
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Posted: Jan 12th 2012 8:44AM Space Cobra said

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I think "Shark-Jumping" is more of an apt possible description than Trolling.

It's pretty obvious they are widening their net; some in their audience want this and those people may better be suited for IMVU or other 3-D chat game, but there it is. Angel wings on your back there, angel wings on your back in EQ. Just last night, CoH introduced a new pack on their Beta server which amounts to "Clothes for Clubbing". Perhaps there is an audience out there for it; I know some folks will like in. Some ladies are more into civilian-wear options, but others ask, "Where are more fantastic options for Super-Hero wear?"

In any case, this may (or may not) be a purchasable option (we don't know yet). While the user "doesn't have to purchase it", of course, they may see others in their game "ruining their immersion". At some point, you just have to shrug and let it roll off your back and pay it little mind. I am not about to stop people's "fun" and people shouldn't stop mine in such a case.

Of course, the problem is when are Devs gonna create the wacky, over-the-top stuff I'd want. Stuff that may not sit well with some other players.

Posted: Jan 12th 2012 9:05AM SkyStreak said

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@Space Cobra

In defense of the CoH Pocket D pack, 'plainclothes' superheroes have been a staple in comics for decades, they're just adding more options for that type of hero.

There are plenty of options to do it currently, but this just adds more at a higher level of quality and detail for those who want it.

It seems most hybrid model games are going for 'upgrades' of what you get for free in their cash shops. You can most definitely play and enjoy the game without them, but if you want it, you can pony up the cash.

It's really no different than leather interior, expensive rims, or a high end stereo and speaker system in your car. They don't make the car perform any better, but people want those upgrades all the time.
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Posted: Jan 12th 2012 9:53AM Space Cobra said

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@SkyStreak

"In defense of the CoH Pocket D pack, 'plainclothes' superheroes have been a staple in comics for decades, they're just adding more options for that type of hero."

I know. Doc Savage. Many Pulp Heroes. It's just they are showing a sorta gaudy side to this. I ain't against it and I sorta realize there is a line between the "He-Man/Macho Boy Groups" and the "Women" in this. Such extras ain't bad. And heck, there are ideas and pieces one could use.

It's all "Eye of the Beholder" stuff and there are things that a group finds "tacky", but that others are okay with. There's always going to be differing opinions, especially with fashions.
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Posted: Jan 12th 2012 10:31AM Shirogetsune said

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@Space Cobra

Zwillinger has stated that the Pocket D pack is intended for City's roleplaying community, as Pocket D is where a fair amount of the population that RPs gathers to do just that. While players that play to min/max their character builds or don't put more than a moment's thought into their costumes won't care for this pack, the bulk of the Virtue/Union players will devour this pack.

Also, in the same Ustream chat - they revealed the Imperial Dynasty pack (think Dynasty Warriors style armor), confirmed they are working on a retro Sci-Fi pack (Buck Rogers style stuff) and have a desire to do a golden/silver age comics pack.

As I stated in the main forums, while those people that want traditional/fantasy related costume pieces might not get much out of the Pocket D pack.. we all have to wait our turn to spend Paragon Points on aesthetic additions. This go around, the people that RP their character's out of costume life get a bone thrown to them.
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Posted: Jan 12th 2012 5:01PM Space Cobra said

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@Shirogetsune

Yeah, I spied the "Dynasty Warriors" sketches and heard about the future, retro-future pack. Looking forward to those.
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Posted: Jan 12th 2012 8:53AM dudes said

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*cough* pony *cough*

Posted: Jan 12th 2012 8:58AM SkyStreak said

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I think all bets are off once the Devs give you the opportunity to play the game for free.

Before, they got $15 or so a month from you they could count on. Now they need to come up with items people will want to buy.

I don't play EQ, but those wings look pretty sweet, so I can see why they did it.

Posted: Jan 12th 2012 9:28AM Yellowdancer said

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@SkyStreak

They did it cause people were complaining that only Arasai could fly without a mount.

Whenever EQ players complain, SOE just offers them what they are complaining about with a price tag. That usually shuts them up.
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Posted: Jan 12th 2012 9:31AM (Unverified) said

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Sparkle pony. WoW. 'Nuff said.

Posted: Jan 12th 2012 9:41AM ArcherAvatar said

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Too bloody right!!!

Follow Up Question: Is it trolling if it wasn't done maliciously or intentionaly but, simply due to abject, mind-boggling, stupidity? (Much as I now detest SOE, and will never have anything to do with them again, I honestly don't think they are functionally retarded on purpose. The nature of the self-sabotage they have been aggregiously demonstrating over the last 10 years, and across multiple titles, is simply too profound to be written off as merely "trolling." As they say in the South, "Bless their hearts... they were just born that way.")
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Posted: Jan 12th 2012 11:57AM pancho72 said

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The "Horse made of stars", could indeed be one of the few cases of deliberate trolling, especially considering the followup it received in a cataclysm quest.

But in general I don't think developers troll like this. It's too much of a risk. The motives are probably much more basic - green motives in most cases.
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Posted: Jan 12th 2012 9:52AM The Ogre said

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Where's the problem? It's just a cash shop mount equivalent, really. No big deal.

As for the Almighty Lore? Again, no big deal. This is a world based around magic, therefore "A Wizard Did It" is a perfectly acceptable response. Or maybe "the world's ambient magical field has started spontaneous wing growth on various sentient creatures" would be more acceptable?

And, yes, it amazes me that there are still people who whine about SWG slapping their Valentine's Day event on the setting's cute & cuddlies, which are the obvious targets for such a thing (nothing wrong with celebrating real-world holidays in-game, IMHO, even if it doesn't fit the setting).

Posted: Jan 12th 2012 9:55AM Laren said

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Not nearly as much as massively trolls its readers!!

Posted: Jan 12th 2012 10:16AM theBeast said

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See!? F2P doesn't ruin games... oh wait.

Posted: Jan 12th 2012 10:24AM (Unverified) said

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@theBeast

Despite the payment model, devs can make bad decisions in order to try to make money. Plenty of WoW players were turned off by Cataclysm and Pandas.
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Posted: Jan 12th 2012 10:42AM happyfish said

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Back when Volume 3 came out with Lord of the Rings, one of the quest rewards was a horseshoe. The tooltip said using this item had some effect. Players posted all sorts of crazy theories about what this effect was and all the developers ever said "the horseshoe is WAI." The best part was to see high level players in top end gear intentionally gimping an item slot just to have the magical horseshoe effect. I dont think anyone ever resolved what this effect was, other than to drive players mad.

Posted: Jan 12th 2012 2:17PM Daeths said

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@happyfish Just like the chat gem in diablo 2. People would sit there for over an hour clicking on it to try and get its mystical bonus
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