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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 4:11PM Pyrii said

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Apparently Sony, Nintendo and EA have now "pulled" their support for the bill, probably only due to PR pressure and to limit damage, but it seems it's too late, and they aren't registered against the bill yet, the only video games company that's been registered against the bill from the start is Microsoft.

All of these companies though are part of the ESA, who support the bill, so they still have some connection to SOPA support, but it's weak at best. http://www.theesa.com/about/members.asp

Posted: Dec 30th 2011 7:00PM Pyrii said

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Additionally, the ESA is the company that runs the Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) and has it's members pay for the ability to display at E3 and to sponsor it's activities "against piracy".

So these companies by being blackmailed into staying members of ESA (It would be damaging for them not to be part of E3) they are still supporting the SOPA bill.
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Posted: Dec 31st 2011 12:11AM Cyroselle said

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@Pyrii This is good info to know, thank you Pyrii.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 4:16PM Dril said

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Well, this'll only end one way:

"This weekend only! 500 Station Cash when you a buy a Station Anti-Anonymous Access Pack!*

*Package does not guarantee immunity nor in any way defend against incursions into Sony and Sony Online Entertainment network services, and does not guarantee complete safety of personal details."

Posted: Dec 30th 2011 4:16PM madcartoonist said

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What ever happened to just boycotting things we disagree with?

Posted: Dec 30th 2011 4:55PM Deliverator said

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@madcartoonist
The US government doesn't work for us anymore and you can't boycott the suppression of free speech.

We've always had to fight for our rights. That much hasn't changed.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 5:32PM JuliusSeizure said

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@madcartoonist

You can't boycott a government bill. You can't boycott the supporter of a bill loudly and quickly enough for them to withdraw their support enough to make a difference.

I don't agree with hacking threats, not in the least because they won't work and will just turn fence-sitters against you, but no matter how much I prefer reasoned arguments presented in a forthright manner, they're not going to make a difference either. The fact is it's pretty much out of our hands how it'll pan out, and these hackers are acting out of a sense of panic and anger over this.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 11:35PM Cyroselle said

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@JuliusSeizure Worse yet, just before everyone finally started wising up and going nuts about it in the beginning of December, the bill had actually been flagged for fast-tracking and was making its way under the collective noses of a bored and under-e-educated electorate.

Fortunately though people are beginning to react, albeit belatedly and a decision was suspended until 2012.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 4:17PM Deadalon said

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Go go ANon

Stopped buying things from Sony years ago.

Posted: Dec 30th 2011 5:54PM (Unverified) said

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@Deadalon You should feel proud for such an amazing achievement.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 4:20PM Yapper said

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If they bother to actually carry out this threat (and that is a big if) I hope Sony has thier sh*t togther.

Posted: Dec 30th 2011 4:23PM Seffrid said

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Regardless of the rights or wrongs of this Bill, the sooner the remaining members of Anonymous and its affiliated offshoots are rounded up and put behind bars the better.

They are simple criminals, in all senses of the phrase, and they need to grow up. If they have a genuine grievance against a company let them take lawful action against that company rather than unlawful action against its customers.

Posted: Dec 30th 2011 5:18PM JuliusSeizure said

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@Seffrid

All of Anonymous? You have no idea what Anonymous actually is, do you? It's an ideology, nothing more. Any activities taken under the banner are done by, shock of shocks, people completely anonymous from anyone who might be quite moderate and content to simply voice their dissent as Anonymous.

See my post below for further clarification.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 6:13PM wufiavelli said

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@Seffrid Thing have gotten to the state where people in the US have a lot of sympathy for robin hood type figures. Happens when you have the shit as screwed as it is. Does not justify it, but does allow we to not really give a shit when something happens to sony.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 6:27PM Seffrid said

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@wufiavelli "Does not justify it, but does allow we to not really give a shit when something happens to sony."

That would be understandable if Sony was taking the hit on its own, but sadly its not their privacy, identities and monies that are stolen, rather it's their customers'.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 7:06PM mrantimatter said

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@wufiavelli
Except its customers who suffer, not the companies. Anon are just a bunch of terrorists who attack people because they can.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 7:18PM Deliverator said

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@mrantimatter
please define terrorist
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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 7:48PM Lenn said

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@Deliverator Terrorism = the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.

Not too far from the mark, I would say.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 8:58PM Deliverator said

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@Lenn
There is no Terror or Fear, Violence, Combatants or Non-Combatants. We're talking about losing access to your video games and money. Get real.
from wikipedia anyways:
Terrorism is the systematic use of terror, especially as a means of coercion. In the international community, however, terrorism has no universally agreed, legally binding, criminal law definition.[1][2] Common definitions of terrorism refer only to those violent acts which are intended to create fear (terror), are perpetrated for a religious, political or, ideological goal; and deliberately target or disregard the safety of non-combatants (civilians). Some definitions now include acts of unlawful violence and war. The use of similar tactics by criminal organizations for protection rackets or to enforce a code of silence is usually not labeled terrorism though these same actions may be labeled terrorism when done by a politically motivated group.
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Posted: Dec 30th 2011 9:07PM Deliverator said

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@Lenn
Additionally, how do you go from repeatedly trying to insinuate their motivation stems from "lulz" or being "afraid" to take on congress to calling them terrorists?

You're trying everything you can think of to discredit what they're doing, going so far as to go at them from two perspectives that are polar opposites. It also appears your're pulling the old Fox Nooz stand by- simply repeating BS until people repeat it for you.
Here' I'll help
Anonymous, lulz, afraid
Anonymous, lulz, afraid
Anonymous, lulz, afraid
That good enough?

What's your motivation, man?
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