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Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 4:35PM edgecrusherO0 said

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The music is freaking epic.

Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 7:11PM alucard3000 said

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@edgecrusherO0 Yes it is,do you happen to know the name of it and where to find a longer version?
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Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 4:46PM jeremys said

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I am enjoying Dungeon Maker more and more, everyday. I didn't think I'd like it much at all, but I did and with new effect objects, It's getting more customizable and fun.

Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 5:00PM Archintyeron said

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Just Like LittleBigPlanet, But in a MMO....
Well... It's cool!

Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 5:07PM Lenn said

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That looks awesome. More games should have this. Is this available to free players as well? If so, I may have to tear myself away from TOR for a bit and try it out.

Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 5:13PM Alchemda said

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User created content is the way of the future. I really hope more games do this type of stuff. I know that SWG and ST:O do it, but I hope new games will have this more frequently.

Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 5:17PM Bhagpuss said

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Anyone can use the dungeons, including free accounts.

If you want to create a dungeon yourself you have to have bought the recent Age of Discovery expansion. Once you've bought it, you can use all the features, including Dungeon Maker, without having to pay a subscription.

While the adventuring side of EQ2 may be a classic Theme Park, the non-adventuring side, which is growing ever-larger, is trending more and more towards the sandbox. There's an awful lot of content that could be labelled "creative" now.

Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 5:31PM (Unverified) said

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I was interested in this at first, but then after reading about it, it sounds like the Dungeon Maker would be very limitied for a casual or newer player. All you would get is the basic tools to use with just the basic enemy mobs to use and the basic tile sets for decoration.
which sounds boring.
If you want more stuff to use to make dungeons with, you have to either collect it from around the game, or worse, pay for it at the cash shop. And I will never purchase things from the cash shop to make dungeons.
So this turned me off and I decided not to sub, I would be more interested in the Dungeon Maker if players had access to the complete full tool set, or at least an almost complete tool set with just some bonus stuff you could add.
can anyone confirm how it works?

Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 7:23PM jeremys said

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@(Unverified) @(Unverified) You can use all furniture available for housing, including a new series they made just for the dungeons. You can get an idea of how many mobs are available by checking out the Dungeon Mark section of the Station Cash store. There are hundreds. I don't know what non-basic are not available. Players are finding almost any mob that's in the game is available.

Finding the mobs furniture and effect objects is a built in experience, like having to go to a dungeon to get any loot. The crafting system for housing isn't much different. They don't just hand you all the "tools" to start decorating a house. You have to level-up, buy/find the recipes and craft the furniture or buy it on the broker - and you can buy mobs and other Dungeon maker items on the broker. They are tradable.

You buy this stuff with the Marks you win from people either running dungeons you made or buy completing dungeons others have made. You then spend the marks in a special section of the cash-shop, with the ability to alternately buy with real money(on a limited amount of the items).

The mobs are fairly customizable. You can set them to wander, stay still or patrol - and you pick the direction and distance they patrol. Effect objects allow you to customize the mobs even further by giving them additional powers like more DPS, poison, larger aggro range, etc...

They are already talking about the possibility of allowing player-characters to run the dungeons through a scalable interface, instead of the current avatar-only runs.
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Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 7:26PM jeremys said

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@jeremys You can also resize mobs, change their names and give them flavor-text - things to say under certain conditions. I could set a mob to say "I'll get you" when I aggro it, and "You'll never beat me" when it's at 50% HP. There's conditions that it will say specific things depending on what your class is, whether the player dies or the mob dies and other conditions.

Definitely not going to be for everyone out there, but for the ones already enjoying housing, it's like an extension of that(in a way).
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Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 6:10PM 7BitBrian said

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Looks like it's time for me to buy this expansion already. I've been trying to fend it off because of the holidays but this video has done it. Buying.

Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 6:36PM (Unverified) said

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I have not (yet) tried the EQ2 dungeon maker, but the Chronicles system in SWG was really fun, so I have high hopes for it.

As for getting more stuff for the dungeons, I am not sure what is wrong with having to collect it in game (I agree you should not have to buy it). I would rather have to search/quest/trade for it than have SOE just hand everything to everyone. Where's the challenge in that?

Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 8:00PM aurickle said

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My Beastlord has had absolutely no trouble getting dungeon drops. By level 30 he already has a good dozen or so monster spawners or effects, just from regular play. It seems to me that SoE did it right here.
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Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 7:09PM Rheem said

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Just to clarify, absolutely no part of the dungeon maker MUST be bought with real money (save for the expansion that enables you to create it).

While some things can be bought for cash, they can also be bought cheaply with dungeon marks which can be earned by running the dungeons.

In fact they only opened the cash option up two days ago, by player request.

Posted: Dec 22nd 2011 8:52PM MetaReal said

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Looks interesting. I didn't have any intention to play Everquest2 but I want to try the Dungeon Maker.
Is it possible to buy the expansion on Steam? (I don't find it, just Everquest)
If it's mandatory to buy on SOE site do you know if they allow Paypal? Thanks.

Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 3:53AM Yellowdancer said

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@MetaReal

I am not sure if EQ2 does paypal. It get confusing because I think each of their games has different billing options. You can dl the client through steam and buy STEAM credits to purchase the expansion out the store(I think. You might want to ask this question on the forum)

I wouldn't go through Steam at this time. Since that relationship is new, there are always issues with billing and getting credits. They will fix it but if something goes wrong it could take days for correction. And since you have very light interest, I would just wait for the next bonus cash day. They do one per Qtr.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 11:12AM Grimjakk said

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@Yellowdancer

I don't think they do PayPal, but you can buy Station Cash cards and use those. And if you cash 'em in the 24th - 27th they count for double points... that means the expansion is half-price!

You can download the client from Steam's FTP section and buy the expansion from the in-game marketplace for Station Cash.
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Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 12:41AM (Unverified) said

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They should have spent ALLLLL that time creating this "Dungeon Maker" to do 3 very simple things ,which will make EQ2 a million times better and more popular!!! 4 actually...

1- Get rid of all the character models that ARE NOT the Alternate Versions. The alternates look 100x better and if you play without the new models, the game makes u feel its 1990.

2 - PROMOTE THE GAME!!!! Noone eevn knows EQ2 exists/still exists. Only SOME of the current mmo players and all mmo need NEW players to survive.

3- REDO THE INTERFACE!!! Make it so it doesnt look liek EQ1 - this can be done EASILY just make it nicer and cleaner so that it adds to the game, not so it takes away from teh visual aesthetic as it does now.

and 4 - Create an overarching storyline with main characters so players can grasp the full story of EQ2, without having to be lost in everty zone.

RIFT, EQ2, SWG and many others have done this so that even if you dont read the lore outside the game, you know the names oft he main characters and what is happening and going on in the game. With a game thats been around as long as EQ2, thousands of people complain about this and one of the main reason they quit or dont ever subscribe.

FIX THIS PLEASE!!!!

Oh one more thing.. Stop coming out with basic bread + water expansions. Try waiting every 2 years or actually releasing xpacs that have more than just a few new basic zones and a few basic raids. There are soo many zones, dungeons and raids being released and all of them are so cutr and dry its pointless.

Lets bring some esxcitement back to EQ2 before it dies from SOE's horribly management,.

Posted: Dec 23rd 2011 11:13AM Grimjakk said

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woops... responded to the wrong person.

Yeah, what he said... ;)

Posted: Dec 24th 2011 2:39AM (Unverified) said

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Good job SOE. This what MMOs need - fresh ideas and player made content

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