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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 2:33PM Boomaga said

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Is it gonna be Free to Play? Because that's the only reason I signed onto DC Universe Online.

Posted: Dec 19th 2011 2:43PM Space Cobra said

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@Boomaga

No word on that yet, but Super-Hero squad is.

Still have to wait and see.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 2:48PM DancingCow said

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@Boomaga

Look at the tags - the first one is f2p.

They announced it would be f2p earlier this year.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 3:34PM Space Cobra said

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@DancingCow

Well, I guess that shows my poker-card-hand! Or more precisely, shows that I don't really care too much about this game atm. I mean, I'll see what they offer and see if it's fun, but really, nothing they've said has me waiting on baited breath.

Of course, if it's f2p, it is easy enough to try out.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 2:35PM dudes said

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Got link?

Posted: Dec 19th 2011 2:42PM pcgneurotic said

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If they can marry the flexible fun and diverse gameplay of MSHSO with the serious-looking graphics they've been showing us so far, then I am most definitely IN.

Posted: Dec 19th 2011 2:46PM DancingCow said

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Already been waiting ages for them to do something with this. They picked up the rights 2 and a half years ago. I want game details.

Posted: Dec 19th 2011 2:47PM Space Cobra said

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Well, I *think* I was right in estimating the next character reveal...

Nah, looking back, I was guessing female. Well, he looks alright....except for his face/head....sorta too rounded.

As for the renaming of the title. Well, it makes business sense, since we have "DC *UNIVERSE ONLINE*", its just better to come up with a game title that players won't get confused if one is related to the other, especially if both will be MMOs. Although, I gotta say, it does sound a bit egotistical, seeing as players are playing *Marvel's* characters and not their own, self-made ones.

Posted: Dec 19th 2011 3:11PM JuliusSeizure said

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@Space Cobra

It's egotistical because we're playing characters long established as heroes, rather than our own made up dudes with no prior history of heroism?

What.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 3:18PM Silverangel said

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@JuliusSeizure I had a similar reaction to SpaceCobra, but I'm not sure why--the title makes it sounds like it's all about them and their peeps. I didn't realize you had to play the Marvel superheroes. Now I do, and the title makes more sense. The story and the scenarios/dungeons could be really interesting and well-done with an exact knowledge of the skills of the players, making them work together as a team. But I want my own hero and story. This won't be something I'm interested in.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 3:45PM Space Cobra said

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@Silverangel @JuliusSiezure

Yeah, pretty much what Silverangel said. Marvel tends to have this history of "ego-stroking". I mean, it's natural given their business; they have to promote, but the name makes sense in that context: You play our heroes and live their adventures (you've read about if you are a comic book fan).

You don't get to create your own hero and play next to Howard the Duck or Man-Thing or The Hulk, you ARE The Hulk or Impossible Man or even Galactus! No divergent history for you!

I mean, I get the allure, but it's a bit like playing a pre-set console game with a pre-set character. This game may be fun, but part of the MMO experience, for me, is making up your own characters (and for you too, JS, you play CoH!). While I can happily accept a "Marvel Ultimate Alliance Online", I'll probably only play very casually. That's just "me". In fact, this may be more geared toward the teen-set who have grown up on "Super Hero Squad" and want more "serious adventures".

It's cool and all. I'll probably hop in and out, especially if its a fun game, but I won't do it for long. In fact, I speculate this may just be a grown up version of "Super Hero Squad", with one screen name, being shown above your hero, as you play him in scenarios/instances. In some ways, I can imagine we "collect" heroes, just like Super Hero Squad. Sorta like "Pokemon" and probably develop their attributes (again, Ultimate Alliance has this).

So...to have a collected box of "pokemon"...or, let's just say "Action Figures" that do stuff? It's not terrible. I like it. But to customize my own figure and character story, at least in my head? To me, that's better.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 3:47PM Space Cobra said

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@Space Cobra

I will say this, since I am a sucker for merchandise:

If they connect this with any toys or action figures, I'd probably be all over it initially. Though I might lose interest as I realize I don't play the game too much after awhile.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 4:52PM NeverDeath said

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@JuliusSeizure

I have a problem with that idea, and it's not that I find it egotistical, so much as that I like making my own character and where possible, writing my own story. I don't want to be the 52nd Spider Man on the same city block, because that is freaking ridiculous, in my opinion. This model companies are going with, of making it so that you can play pre-made characters, just doesn't fit in the MMO space for the very reason that it's an MMO and there are people everywhere. It's weird in Vindictus, it's going to be weird here - I just don't get it. If they were in Diablo 2-esque hosted games where only 1 of each hero could be present, it would make the most sense to me... But I just couldn't play a game where I'm a Thor, he's a Thor, she's a Thor, 'cause we're all Thor HEY.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 4:57PM NeverDeath said

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@Space Cobra

I hadn't read what you'd said prior to posting at Seizure, but I completely agree with you. The same reasons you don't like it are the same reasons I don't. But I have to stress that more even than not having any control over the background or the style of the character and its appearance, but rather it primarily bothers me because in an MMO you have thousands of people around, and unless they make thousands of Marvel characters playable and limit them to 1 of each archetype per server (unlikely), you're going to end up being the 976th Galactus on the server... It both makes an iconic character and background and squashes the significance of playing it all at once.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 6:17PM Allegos said

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@Space Cobra I would play the living hell out of Man-Thing. Is that an option?
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 7:48PM JuliusSeizure said

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@Space Cobra

I'm just waiting to see how it actually feels to play it for myself, rather than making a snap judgement. Like I keep saying, I have 3 distinct (and F2P!) superhero MMOs where I can create a character of my own and make all my own decisions about what to do with them. One that actually lets me be one of my favourite established heroes sounds like something new and different. The fact that it's Marvel is a nice bonus, since I'm more a fan of Marvel's characters than -any- of their rivals.

I agree that being Spider-man #342 will be silly, but there's plenty of other things about any MMO that are immersion breaking. Besides, we just don't know how they're handling the concept of multiple players with the same character. Maybe the game is entirely instanced and you can't group with someone playing the same hero? Granted, that makes it not a real MMO, but that's another point of debate entirely. Maybe they'll just have a social lobby area where we can make civilian avatars to hang out and chat, while not actively playing?

Assuming there will be open world areas, perhaps there's some sort of phasing, multiple costume options or something I can't even think of to limit our experience of bumping into clones? Maybe there'll be a background story about clones, multiple universes or time disruptions that causes it? Maybe they'll come up with something brilliant that will occur to none of us, or maybe they'll just shrug and tell us to suspend our disbelief, since we're doing that just by playing a videogame about obviously impossible superheroes. And the thing is, none of these are necessarily good or bad approaches, it all depends on a myriad other circumstances of their design.

The point is, we don't know, and complaining about it in comments sections of articles on MMO news blogs won't change their minds. They wouldn't have announced this unless they were committed absolutely to it, so I'd really prefer to let them work on it, then make my judgements when they actually give us some gameplay to check out.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 8:24PM (Unverified) said

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@JuliusSeizure

Agreed. I see this in a lot of comments on here - "I don't like this upcoming new game because one of its main features goes against what I like, even though there are already 10 other games offering the feature I do like."

We have CoX, DCUO, and CO to play characters in our own made up mindverse. Lets let Marvel actually do something different.

As long as the cast of playable characters is very diverse (not just the X-men, Avengers, and Fantastic Four..) then I welcome being able to play Marvel heroes.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 9:44PM Space Cobra said

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@JuliusSeizure

True enough. If it's fun, I'll play a bit. Like I said, I liked Marvel Ultimate Alliance.

But really, and granted, this is speculation, I feel this game will closely model "Super Hero Squad Online", but with more realistic art. You will have a selection of heroes you will unlock. I you take that stance, that it will have many of the same features as SHSO, so many of their decisions make sense. The story arcs, the f2p mode, the possible codes with action figures tie-in, the stat-building, and more.

With SHSO, when you get a different costume, it is essentially a different character. I like SHSO fair enough, in small bouts of playing. I think the game will do alright if it keeps to the same model. Granted, things will be tweaked up for "Marvel Heroes" to have more "teen/adult options", but I will speculate this is the gameplay/business model they will go with. It even fits Marvel's "Ultimate Alliance" rather well. Check out SHSO (since it is f2p) and see how they handle 2 or more of the same character (they don't and there's no explanation of it).

Again, I will likely play this: It's a different alternative to what we got, but I am seeing an older-themed version of SHSO. I could be wrong and have been before, but this is the most likely scenario.
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 9:47PM Space Cobra said

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@Space Cobra

"I you take that stance" = If you take the stance (that it will be very similar to SHSO in its usage of unlocked characters and how you play adventures with others, but are in a number of instanced lobbies)

Damn typoes throwing my cocoa puffs fer a loop!
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Posted: Dec 19th 2011 9:24PM Yukon Sam said

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