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Posted: Dec 15th 2011 10:04AM (Unverified) said

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As they should. Luckily I ordered from shopto and it's already been dispatched.

Posted: Dec 15th 2011 1:40PM dsp4 said

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Can't people who ordered the physical copy just download the client before they receive the game? Is it a matter of bandwidth cap?

With all the patches this game will receive, the data on the disc will probably be outdated by December 20.

Why not just download the client and keep the physical copy in its original shrink wrapping?
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Posted: Dec 15th 2011 3:24PM SFGamer69 said

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@dsp4

First, the issue was one only affecting NA orders. The problem, was that 3rd party retailers here were not being allowed to ship until the 20th, which was release day. That being the case, you could be in early access now and playing (as i am ) but when the 20th came, you would have to have your physical copy in hand, in order to enter the registration code, which is printed on the manual. That means, for us in NA, that at minimum, we would be locked out of the game for 2 days since Amazon was not doing any shipping until the 21st for some reason.

That has all been resolved obviously, because that statement they made was posted yesterday, and this morning i was notified my order has shipped and will arrive tomorrow, the 16th...=)
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Posted: Dec 15th 2011 10:04AM aurickle said

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You know, I can't recall any other game for which Amazon has made a post like that. The doubters can talk all they want about how this game is going to fail -- and they could even be right in the long run if their talk about aggressive content release post-launch proves to be more air than substance -- but don't be surprised if the stats on this launch move into the record books.

Posted: Dec 15th 2011 11:09AM MrSquiggles said

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I was never, ever in doubt of that. All the naysayers can keep talking. It was always going to do well, it's not hard to see that.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2011 10:06AM Ranxerox said

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I wonder how long Amazon has had their stock? Or are they just a third party seller, with someone/somewhere else handling the shipping?

Posted: Dec 15th 2011 10:31AM aurickle said

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Amazon receives the product from EA and ships it themselves. They probably received the stock within the last couple of days -- the CD's couldn't be burned and packaged until the game went gold and production itself usually takes a good week or two.

However, it is very common for sellers to receive product in advance of the release date. The boxes are typically marked with "Do not sell before" labels which retailers are careful to respect. Failure to do so is a breach of their contract and can prevent them from receiving future product. That's a risk they are not willing to take!

In this case, I suspect that EA told Amazon that once the product arrives they can ship it out. Then EA had the product delivered to Amazon so that it arrived yesterday. Once the product was in hand, Amazon proceeded to send out the notification emails and make that post.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2011 10:34AM Naoki7 said

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Amazon rules just for the 99cent release-day shipping.

Posted: Dec 15th 2011 11:33AM (Unverified) said

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@Naoki7 Amazon is legit. I haven't purchased a game in a long time that either wasn't Amazon or an amazing bogo sale at toys r us. Can't really beat no tax, 20 dollar future game credits and 99 cent same day delivery.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2011 10:35AM Felnor said

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Hurray!!!

Posted: Dec 15th 2011 10:49AM Grumms said

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Thank god! I was getting worried. My order had said "December 27-29 estimated delivery".

Posted: Dec 15th 2011 5:20PM (Unverified) said

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@Grumms

This is excellent news. Well done Amazon.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2011 10:50AM TheAngryIntern said

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Yep, got an email from them last night about this. It said I should be getting it tomorrow.

Posted: Dec 15th 2011 11:02AM (Unverified) said

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I'm glad they are shipping it earlier than the release date now that Bioware has changed their earlier stance of having a grace period. Still, looks like I'll have a couple days between the end of early access and the receipt of my box without access to the game because I had been counting on the grace period to fill in those 2-3 days.

Oh well, enjoying the Early Access for now at least.

Posted: Dec 15th 2011 11:12AM aurickle said

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You know, something has been nagging me for a while and yesterday I finally managed to put my finger on it. People keep calling SWTOR a WoW clone and in some respects (like the talent trees) that holds true. But in truth, I think that SWTOR actually has a lot more in common with Tabula Rasa!

Think about it:

1) Both games are sci-fantasy.
2) The graphics for both games look very similar... the overall style in environments, character models and even many of the creature models. WoW is a lot more polygonal and over the top. TR was a lot more realistic, albeit stylized -- just like SWTOR.
3) Both games have starter classes that evolve into advanced classes. With TR you had two splits while SWTOR has only one.
4) Both games have alien artifacts scattered through the world to hunt down. TR had logos while SWTOR has holocrons.
5) Both games make heavy use of instancing to tell the story. In fact, the instances are even entered in both games by going through a light curtain.
6) The combat in SWTOR -- especially for melee classes -- feels very fast paced and active. TR was this way as well, making the global cooldowns feel almost like an fps.
7) Both games have moral dilemmas. In SWTOR it's the light/dark side choices while in TR it was quests that made you make a choice.

There are probably more parallels but at the end of the day I think that if WoW and TR had a love child, it would be SWTOR. :) For all the people who like me miss Tabula Rasa, this game could well feel like the next best thing.

Posted: Dec 15th 2011 12:14PM (Unverified) said

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@aurickle

I actually thought the exact same thing yesterday. It's kinda like Tabula Rasa's son who learned from his fathers mistakes.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2011 2:28PM (Unverified) said

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@aurickle

Despite Tabula Rasa's many flaws....the world was much more dynamic and "real" than SWTOR.

Where are the NPC invasions in SWTOR?
Where are the ships full of mobs, being air dropped right in front of me?
Where are the battlefields?

I dont think thats a fair comparison.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2011 3:00PM aurickle said

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The ships full of mobs in TR were nothing more than a different spawn effect. If you paid any attention you soon realized that the teleportations always happened in the same places, just like any standard mob spawn.

So that actually leaves two items from your list that are actual features from TR that aren't in SWTOR, with which you want to invalidate the seven comparisons I made? Conversely, I could come back and say, "Where was the voice acting in TR? Where was the space combat? Player owned ships?"

I didn't say that the two games were identical. I only said that to me, SWTOR feels like it has more in common with Tabula Rasa than with WoW.
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Posted: Dec 15th 2011 11:44AM Dunraven said

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We have Bioware to thank for that they spent quite a bit of time on the phone with Amazon.

Blizzard could learn so much from these guys.

Posted: Dec 15th 2011 12:06PM Snichy said

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I'm kind of regretting not buying it from Amazon here in the UK. I bought it from play.com in the end and although they emailed me to say it had been despatched on Monday (which I was pleasantly surprised about), they haven't provided me with a pre-order key even though I ordered it weeks ago and they have been ignoring all my emails. As a result, theres no early access for me and I blame play.com entirely for that - if only I had ordered from Amazon things might have been so different. Moral of the story, people in the UK, NEVER use play.com if you want any pre-order benefits to be honoured.

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