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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 8:01AM Felnor said

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Make it cheap at the start but make it more expensive over time. This is one on the things I think WoW got right.

Posted: Dec 12th 2011 8:44AM (Unverified) said

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@Felnor

I agree- It doesn't make sense to not have this feature in all games. It makes the game more enjoyable having the flexibility to swap. As for SWTOR- I hope they add duel AC sooner rather then later!
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 12:32PM Beltyra said

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Why is it with SWTOR everyone thinks you should be both Advance Classes?? With Aion no one complained about how I couldnt be both a Gladiator AND a Templar...its the same freaking system!

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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 1:07PM (Unverified) said

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@Beltyra

When I played WoW I really liked my Paly & Druid because I could tank,dps and or heal. I think it helps add flexibility to the game. Same thing in Rift. I like options, and hope to see them in SWTOR. If not I will deal with it, and level more toons in order to have the flexibility.
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 2:17PM DancingCow said

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I agree.

SWTOR's repetitiveness would be greatly reduced by allowing players to change between ACs. There's not much appeal in playing through alternate ACs - same story, companions etc.
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 2:50PM sortius said

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@(Unverified) For me, I really don't think allowing a full respec of advanced classes is a good thing in SWTOR. It doesn't take long to burn through the 1-10 content, and giving that kind of flexibility means there's only 4 classes to level.

It'd be silly for Bioware to shoot themselves in the foot like that.
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 2:57PM DarkWalker said

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@Felnor

The way I love being able to respec and play all roles with a single character, I'm not going to get into TOR unless they allow (fairly easy and unlimited, including at max level) AC switching. I don't think I can actually have fun with the game otherwise.

The way things are shaping to be, though, I will most likely be playing either TSW or GW2, as soon as those launch - in no small part because they allow me to "respec", and change to any role, at a whim.
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 4:37PM Celtar said

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@Felnor

That is my take on it as well Felnor. Make it cheap at first and increase the cost thereafter.

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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 7:26PM (Unverified) said

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@sortius

Well if its so easy to re-roll to fix a mistake then I think we should have permadeath added. I mean after all its as easy as re-rolling..right?

Sounds silly huh?
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 8:13AM Haikon said

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I think the point is missed for SWTOR, the initial "class" you choose is more of a "direction". You choose your actual "class" at level 10.

It'd be like saying you want to go Magic, then at level 10 choose mage or warlock.

You would never expect a warlock to be able to "respec" to a mage. At least in the traditional sense.

Also: everything being story driven, it makes 100x more sense to start a new char and go through the next "classes" story arch.

Posted: Dec 12th 2011 8:20AM Brigonos said

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@Haikon

Except that both ACs have the same story. So it makes 1000000x less sense to restart.
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 9:06AM KvanCetre said

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@Brigonos
In every other MMO, every character has the same story... Yet no one complains about that.
Of course, if you wanted to respec a healer, you could reroll one of the other 2 stories with a healer too :)
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 9:13AM Malagarr said

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@Brigonos

This is the very reason they chose to wait till level 10 for you to choose your AC. If they had permitted you to choose your AC at level 1 (and just called it a class) they would have been accused of skimping on content by only putting in four storylines. Personally, I'd rather have 8 storylines shared by 16 classes than have to wait another two years while they develop the other 8 storylines before I can play.

If that means I have to replay a few hours of content should I decide I didn't care for my choice in AC, big deal.
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 9:42AM Leandra said

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@Haikon

Right, the AC is the actual class -- it functions like Aion's system, where each base class splits into two; for example, priest turns into cleric and chanter, or with TOR, consular can turn into sage or shadow. Respeccing between that would be like being able to class change from a mage to a rogue, and wouldn't make sense. Within each AC you have the option to respec between three different trees, so in reality it's not really any more limited than other MMOs that allow respecs.
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 2:59PM DarkWalker said

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@Leandra

Except that no single AC in the whole game allows a character to both tank and heal.

And for this, I won't be playing TOR.
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 8:20AM FrostPaw said

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Choice without consequences is not a choice.

If you don't limit your ability as a character how can you ever grow as a player, everybody wants to be a tank -dps-healer whenever they want. May aswell remove the illusion that people want to actually be different and let everyone have every talent in every tree at the same time.

I'll respect a player far more if they can overcome a deficiency in their choices rather than tailor their choice to make everything as easy as possible.

It's an mmo, you're not supposed to do everything yourself, thats why other players exist.

Posted: Dec 12th 2011 8:28AM (Unverified) said

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@FrostPaw No one will continue paying to be "the guy that got it wrong, and is screwed for life now".

Everyone logs on alone, before they find a group. MMOs are built one player at a time.
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 11:36AM Irem said

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@FrostPaw
There are degrees of consequence, some of which make sense for an online game, and some of which don't (depending on how hardcore of an audience you want to appeal to). Irreversible consequences discourage exploration and risk-taking, and if a game is going to ask that of their players, they'd better be damn sure they've fully explained everything going into those choices.
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 11:47AM syberghost said

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@FrostPaw when consequences eliminate fun, you shut the servers down and lay off most of the employees.
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Posted: Dec 12th 2011 12:50PM PhelimReagh said

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@FrostPaw
It sounds like you've never played an MMO looking for a group with the "wrong" spec for your class.

Your sole "respect" won't be betting anyone into any groups.
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