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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 3:39PM dudes said

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Interesting. Reminds me of CCP and PLEX with Facebook credits rolled into one.

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 3:39PM DancingCow said

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"Certain regions" can cash out, but others can't?

Blizzard trying to take over all of the eg. Chinese gold farmers?

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 3:57PM Eamil said

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@DancingCow

If I had to guess I'd say that it would be much more of a legal nightmare in some places.

Similarly, they don't let you withdraw "Blizzard cash" once it's been created because it would subject them to a lot more regulations (at least in theory, looking at Paypal nowadays...). When you "cash out" via paypal, what you do is make the decision once you're notified that one of your auctions has sold to receive that money either as cash via Paypal or as $Blizz, but once it's been turned into $Blizz (I like that, I think I'll keep using it =p) you can't take that and convert it back to cash.
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 4:48PM SnarlingWolf said

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@DancingCow

I'm calling it now, here is what will happen. They'll start off with lower priced items. Then once a bunch of people have converted money into Blizz cashtastic they will jack up the prices on all the goods and say "Remember, no refunds". So now either you put even more money in to be able to use the money already in there, or you let the money in there go to waste and Blizzard gets money for free.

Just wait and watch, it will happen.
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 5:29PM (Unverified) said

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@SnarlingWolf not really, they are just linking the sparkle pony, pets and wow time with the real money AH in diablo 3.

I wouldn't be surprised if they added a lot more mounts and pets to the store tho.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2011 3:56AM Addfwyn said

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@SnarlingWolf Doubt it, in the case of D3 the market decides the prices, not Blizzard. Blizzard won't be directly selling D3 loot via their AH, that's up to the players.

I don't see blizz able to jack up prices realistically on wow subs, which means the only thing they could really change would be vanity mounts/pets.
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 3:41PM (Unverified) said

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This comment thread will not end well.

What's the over/under on this making it to WoW? I putting the line at 3 years ... and I say under!

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 3:41PM nimzy said

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How much is too much, people?

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 4:23PM NothingShocking said

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@nimzy Too much what? Capitalism? If Blizzard goes too far, then we as consumers will show them with our wallets. Obviously, a majority of their users don't feel they've reached that far yet... and I don't think a virtual wallet system (something that quite a few online merchants offer) is going to push many over that edge.
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 5:25PM (Unverified) said

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@NothingShocking
Well, the article mentions using it in WoW. I doubt to many people will want to pay for in game things for a subscription based game. Yes, mounts and pets are one thing (although not too far off) but look at the uproar when they first proposed Real ID grouping.

The original idea for Real ID grouping was that the person forming the group had to pay a premium. So WoW would have become the first subscriber based game to not offer every feature to subscribers. The uproar was huge and Blizzard backed down. But I doubt with Kotick as CEO of ActiBlizz that the idea has been given up. They may not do it with Real ID but I will just about bet anything they will try it with something else, be it armor or weapons or such. I can see it now, Valor and Conquest points can be bought with Battle.net Balance. Would not be surprised to see that.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2011 2:08AM (Unverified) said

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@(Unverified) Pretty sure the uproar around realID was that it would reveal peoples real names to everyone (and with so many 'delightful' WoW player that could only have turned out well *sarcasm*), they did however implement a scaled down system (revealing your real name only to realID friends).
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Posted: Dec 10th 2011 5:06AM (Unverified) said

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That was the original uproar over Real ID when the system came out. However, back in the spring of this year when they first mentioned Real ID grouping, they announced plans to have it available only for a premium fee (the person doing the invites have to pay extra). There was a HUGE uproar where people pointed out that by having a subscription we were already premium members, that their own FAQ says we pay the sub fee to develop new content and that content, for which Real ID grouping and other in game features are, and then have to pay extra to use it was very wrong. Blizzard backed off that position.
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Posted: Dec 11th 2011 6:15PM (Unverified) said

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@nimzy

Profits for the gamer.

win / win
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 3:42PM fallwind said

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so... get epic drop in D3, sell it to putz for $15, can't cash out, so my only option for spending that $15 is either paying for WoW, or buying someone eles's drop for "free"?


Anyone else getting "ponzi scheme" images here?

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 4:36PM (Unverified) said

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@fallwind

No, just you. Have you looked up ponzi scheme?
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 5:36PM Averice said

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@failwind

You trolling or do you just have no clue what you're talking about?
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 3:43PM Space Cobra said

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So, this is like EvE's Plex plan, but without the ability to turn things into cash? Basically something Blizzard can control?

I can see this from their previous moves, but I am not sure why they are doing this; perhaps Activision wants more "cash" in its "cow" and would rather "not give up the milk to customers, but keep it themselves"?

I can see more potential games being connected and a whole slew of services offered for Activision's other games. But, that's speculation for now. Really, I don't see how some customers will like this. I can't be sure, but we may see another drop of WoW subs sometime before or after this is implemented.

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 8:23PM (Unverified) said

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@Space Cobra You can't convert plex into cash, either. Once money is turned into plex, it can only become gametime, ISK or Aurum. There's no "legal" way to cash out anything in EVE. Seeing the in game plex for real life money (while possible) is technically not allowed.
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 3:55PM edgecrusherO0 said

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There is nothing new stated. We've known about the wallet and then inability for first party cash outs since they announced it months back. We knew that the only way to cash out would be to use PayPal (who Blizz partnered with) and be subjected to another third party fee to do so.

I know I'm having no part in this, but it's a great monetization scheme as far as improving revenue. Whether or not it's good for the average gamer though, I'm not sure. I can see tons of tangible benefits, but as far as trends go I can see some long term pitfalls.

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 3:56PM thade said

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Perhaps I misunderstand you...but if you're saying those funds are forever locked into Blizzard-land, you're mistaken. Check the D3 Auction House FAQ here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/services/auction-house/info#q7

In short, as an "advanced Feature" you will be able to get cash back on your D3 Auction House sales. And if the FAQ that you linked is accurate, you can do it via PayPal (see "Can I convert my Battle.net Balance into cash?"): http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&tag=balancefaq&rhtml=true

So...people CAN potentially earn a living on the Auction House in D3...if they're willing to interact with PayPal as a business.

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