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Posted: Dec 10th 2011 12:13AM Utakata said

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That has nothing to do with this complaint. As Nenene also mentioned GW2 in his/her example....

...if anything, it could be argued if a crap game like APB can do it, so why can't a billion dollar SWTOR do it as well? /shrug

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Posted: Dec 10th 2011 1:21PM (Unverified) said

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@Utakata No, I agree with GW2. I just don't see how a game with hardly any focus on the game play but a lot of focus on the customization is an example. Hell, you might as well throw CO and STO on the table, both games with great customization but terrible game play.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2011 4:13PM Utakata said

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But the customization of you character is irrelevant to the quality of the game. Sure there's your APB, CO, and STO that where bad examples. But there's also Aion with limited success (great in the East, did poorly in the West). And finally there's of coarse GW2 and CoH, who are great games (hopefully for the former, definitely for the latter). So there's no written law, strawman or otherwise, that states a games quality is inversely proportional to it's character customization. If that really was, Warhammer should of been a huge success...and CoH would be a peice of crap. Neither which is true currently.

Getting back to SWTOR, and I will point out...this an IP that has a history of strongly imaginative in story and style. Thus your character customization and gear progression should equally reflect that. I, with many others, are not see'ing that with this build. I can only personally hope...that if they can't have that ready for release, they'll quickly adopt that afterwards. As I said, the IP demands that high standard that BioWare chose to make an MMO out of....so there is very little wiggle room for shirking on it. Just saying.
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:06PM RequiemDogma said

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Got into one of the Beta weekends, played a few quests, logged off to sleep, kind of, never went back to it.
Voice acting and the like is nice, but I don't believe it'll last, too similar to that other one to draw people away for a spell, if it all, and that art direction.
God damn.
Someone euthanize that artist.

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:07PM Nenene said

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"Color Match had a subtle but ultimately perverse effect: from the moment it was turned on, the player would perceive far less diversity in their loot. In some cases, to be honest, there are only so many differences we can create between two pairs of boots apart from their color scheme. Take away their color differences - thanks to the Color Match system - and you are left with a game that feels a bit less rewarding; where, sometimes, putting on your exciting new gear barely changes the appearance of the character."

Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait

Did Bioware just admit
That their armor designs are so similar to each other
That they had to remove color matching because if they left it in people would realize that most of TOR's armor looks like generic crap?

SERIOUSLY

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:25PM Resurge said

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@Nenene if the worst thing in the game is lack of diversity in boot design, i can live with that. With all the work they have done, i can forgive simple things like lack of 4000 distinct boots skins. I don't want to wait till June to play because they needed 6 months to design 20 new sets of armor for every subclass either. It seems a minor gripe, and sort of trivial in the grand scheme of things.
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:29PM Nenene said

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If you can't manage to make armor that doesn't look identical to other armor when dyed the same color in 2011, you've got bigger problems than meeting your launch date.

What on earth did they spend all that SWTOR dev money on? Hookers and blow?
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:40PM cingeto said

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@Nenene

Cutscenes, voice-over and story, would be my guess....
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:44PM mizcal said

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@Nenene
How many different things can they do with the boots of each class? Seriously, they are boots. Do you want them to start looking like WOW shoulders where they put giant crystals and tentacles all over them? That will look even worse than different colors.

Talk about complaining over nothing. You know what, send your message to EA and Bioware by not playing. Come on, tough guy. Hit them where it hurts, their wallet. This is a free market, take your money somewhere else.

Ya... that's what I thought. See you in game.
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:56PM Nenene said

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I'm...not actually buying TOR. Obviously. Considering that they can't seem to figure out how to design different pairs of SHOES to look dissimilar when dyed different colors, for God's sake.

Come ON, this is Star Wars. Sandals? Low-rises? Wedge-heels? Thigh-highs? Lumberjack boots, steel toe, suede flap tops? For God's sake, give the art team $50 and send them to my local Payless Shoes for an afternoon!

This isn't some low-budget studio, this is Bioware! If this is how they're going to run things right out of the gate, I shudder to think of what's going to happen when the game hits 5+ years old and goes into the WoW reskinning phase. They're ALREADY reskinning!
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 7:19PM MtthwRddl said

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@Resurge I disagree. I've known from the beginning that I wanted to play a trooper class. I've always thought the troopers in the white armor from the movies were very cool looking.

It will depress me heavily if I get into game and I've given the same armor pieces left and right with different colors. Personally, I'd want to keep to an white color scheme, but that would cut my opens completely.

I'm not even sure if SWTOR has an appearance tab. I don't think it does. If I can't choose my appearance outside of having to wear the best armor in the game to compete, I'm really disappointed.
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 9:10PM Celtar said

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@mizcal


Sorry Mizcal, I know you are probably one of those FPS player converts come on over to mmorpg land to play SWTOR, but seriously such customization "is" important to mmorpg players.
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Posted: Dec 10th 2011 7:55AM Solude said

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@Celtar
Important to some.

My wife for instance HATES that armour changes so for her, more is less. For her games like CO and CoX are brilliant and Rift is unplayable.

For me, I could care less either way with one exception, I want a wardrobe tab so I can hide hideous armour.
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:07PM Strangeland said

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I downloaded my copy today. No waiting.

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:09PM DancingCow said

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I stopped visiting the SWTOR forums a little while back so don't know what this is about but...

... while massively has given SWTOR a lot of press coverage, I think it's about what I'd expect for any AAA MMO approaching launch.

And their reviews of SWTOR have been (accurately) unflattering in my opinion. SWTOR has definite merits and the story is brilliant but the gameplay is nothing new.

If this kerfuffle is related to their not selling the game to some regions, I say flip the bird to Bioware and play something else instead. I was on the fence about buying it (I like the story but the gamplay is a bit old and tired to me) and the fact I have to go to extra effort to buy the game from OS tipped me onto the not buying side.

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:13PM (Unverified) said

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Local pick-up was not available at my gamestop (the only local retailer in my area who does local pick-up). I pre-ordered on 7-21-11 and even spent time on the phone trying to arrange for local pick up, as that's what I prefer to do.

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:13PM JonBuck said

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At least with the Mod system I don't have to deal with Shoulderpads of Doom if I don't want to. Kudos for that.

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:28PM Faction 3 said

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@JonBuck

AY! The sole reason I played an Orc Warlock for over 4 years in WoW was simply because of the massive Shoulderpads!!
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Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:15PM Solude said

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I can understand people nerd raging since our preorder codes say in ink that they are good until Dec 31. That said, it doesn't say launch access, it says early game access but the expiry date confuses things. Retail code needed on launch is the norm. If you don't preorder you are at the mercy of retail anyway so... no difference.

Posted: Dec 9th 2011 6:17PM dudemanjac said

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@(Unverified) Can you link to this?

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