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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 12:30PM (Unverified) said

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Perhaps you should consider relaxing a bit. It is hardly "bashing" to speak the truth about TOR - it IS an extremely linear game and the extreme emphasis on the individual storylines does limit its replayability, unless Bioware is able to maintain a steady stream of new content.

I am sure lots of players will luv luv luv it. Others who prefer a more open game will not. Just like every other mmo. /shrug
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 12:31PM aaradun said

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@(Unverified) the game is already profitable if all pre-order buy the game, so ya.
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 12:35PM (Unverified) said

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So it's like every MMO out there?
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 12:36PM Lucidus said

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@Valkenr Given the CEOs I've had to work with... they don't know a damn thing. They just have less scruples on screwing people over.
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 12:58PM SnarlingWolf said

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@aaradun

After the insane rumored cost of production, the percentage of gross that lucas gets, the advertising, the server bandwidth/increased customer service once it launches, it isn't even close to profitable just from the preorders.

They've said themselves that they'd need something like 1-2 million continuous subs over the course of the first year, along with high sales, to break even.

Yes the game is going to sell well. Yes there will be a lot of people playing it during the first month. What has yet to be seen is if 3 and 6 months down the line it is still on track to make its money back or if it follows the trend of every other MMO released in the past ~5 years where it loses 60-75% of the players by month 3.

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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 1:03PM StClair said

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You know, you could have left that at just "He's been such an asshole".
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 1:32PM KDolo said

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It IS bashing when you say things like, "Don't bother to explore, all there is is walls and monsters."

I'm in the beta. Have been for months. I don't get this sense at all. Clearly, you do and you demonstrate that you're trying to convince people that your view of the game being shitty should be shared by more people by statements like this. That is the very definition of bashing.

So, bash, if you like. Just don't then turn around and take the high road.
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 1:44PM (Unverified) said

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@KDolo

First of all, I am not the "Unverified" who made the so-called bashing post. I am, however, the "Unverified" who pointed out that telling the truth is not bashing. Blame Massively for failing to fix this annoying bug for the confusion.

So, TOR does not have walls? Monsters? It is not a linear game? Is not the emphasis of the game on class storylines and voice acting/cinematic cut screens? You may find all those things hunky dory and that is fine. Others will not. But stating that the game has these features is hardly "bashing".

Here is an example of bashing: TOR SUXXORS!! See the difference?
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 2:16PM Vagrant Zero said

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@Valkenr I am better than you in everything.

So yes.
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 3:23PM dudemanjac said

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@(Unverified) Only got into the beta weekends and my highest toon got to 19. I had pretty decent control over what order I did my missions in and once i got my ship I didn't even need to sticak around to finish the stuff on that planet. I could continue with the class story line, hit a different planet, do pvp, fly missions in my ship or do any of the flach points and dailies ppl were requesting teams for. I don't understand how open you need it to be.

The key to this game is that there is a story so some of the missions have to be done in order. I don't know why this is a problem.
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 3:25PM dudemanjac said

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@(Unverified) Yet there are ppl who replay other mmos and the KOTOR games to this day.
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 3:35PM CorwynnMaelstrom said

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@aaradun "@(Unverified) the game is already profitable if all pre-order buy the game, so ya."

No, it's not.
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 11:03PM (Unverified) said

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@(Unverified) Before people start complaining about SWTOR, I think they should actually play it 1st. They say it's "linear" yet once you get your ship (got mine at level 15) you can go anywhere you want to. The 1st two worlds are basically forced upon you as you continue to develop your character and your storyline, but after that you're free to roam.

As far as Mr Kotick, he's the guy that said once he was in charge he was here to "take the fun out of gaming". He's a business peon who cares nothing about games except how much money they can make him. Pronbably, he's upset that WoW lost 1.7 million subs this year costing his company approx $25.5 million a month in revenue. Once SWTOR hits, that number will further decline and continue to bleed with GW2.
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 11:51AM Rayko said

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This is a hater making a facile argument; by this rational the movies wouldn't have made anyone but Lucas money.

Posted: Nov 29th 2011 12:07PM MMOaddict said

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@Rayko

Yeah, Kotick needs a reality check. I'm pretty sure FOX studios have been sitting high and pretty ever since they published the Star Wars movies even though it's a Lucasarts IP and film(s). I'm sure THEY had some economics work for them.
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Posted: Dec 4th 2011 4:47PM Stellar25 said

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@MMOaddict Alan Ladd Jr. was forced to resign from FOX for the deal he signed with Lucas.
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 12:01PM ScottishViking said

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"I don't really understand how the economics work for Electronic Arts"

A small percentage of a hobajillion dollars is still a lot of money.

Posted: Nov 29th 2011 12:05PM bobfish said

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@ScottishViking

It is indeed, LucasArts will take a massive cut of the money for very little work, but provided this isn't a total disaster EA will make a fair amount as well.
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Posted: Dec 2nd 2011 8:23PM aaradun said

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@bobfish as stated in another thread lucas doesn't get a dime until this game is paid for in full. They onl get 30% of the profit
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 12:06PM Mynsc said

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Well, if you think about it, it's how it should be.
SW:TOR without the Star Wars universe behind it wouldn't be much. It would actually amount to less that what Rift was/is, considering it brings less innovation even than Trion's game.

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