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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:24PM eLdritchZ said

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@(Unverified) just fyi - German Umlauts can also be represented as "ae" "oe" and "ue" respectively. It's an official thing, too ;)
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:48AM Patently Right said

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A €1000 virtual item... crazy.

...well, the most I've spent is around $20, on a F2P game I played for six months on and off. Not too bad a deal, in retrospect. I've not spent a cent on anything else, although my wallet is definitely going to bleed once GW2 hits brick-and-mortar shops around here.

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:53AM (Unverified) said

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I have paid for services, such as a faction change and race change. I have never bought a mount, pet or any actual virtual item. I doubt I ever will. I just don't have the money to waste on something like that.

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:55AM (Unverified) said

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I've bought up to $20 in turbine points but only because it was a mega sale on Mines of Moria before it got put into the full lotro store.

I don't mind buying things that last for the entire account, especially ones that go to multiple/future characters.

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 9:03AM (Unverified) said

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50 pence at the most tbh

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 9:04AM GW2waiting said

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I don't buy virtual items, and that includes digital leased downloads of games (I'm looking at you Darth Steam'ious).

FACT: Did you know that Steam collects and reports metrics of its usage, stability, and performance, with collection occuring without notifying the user or offering an opt-out. These metrics are available publicly, such as what games are being played and statistics on player progression in games. Back in July 2010, Valve also announced that in conjunction with collecting hardware information, they would begin collecting a list of the user's installed software as well. ummmm excuse me, we have a thing called privacy!!

My money goes on real things like real boxes full of real game DVDs that I OWN. The day they stop supplying boxes, is the day I stop buying new games.

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 9:20AM Karth said

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@GW2waiting When internet dies as we know it you will laugh hard
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 9:27AM (Unverified) said

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@GW2waiting

uh.... whats the problem here.. collecting hardware information is fine but gathering a list on installed programs isn't? it's not like they are taking that list and handing it out to all those companies in attempts to find cracked software and yadda like that. whats so private about the items u have installed on ur computer. me sitting down in front of the computer gives me access to that same list.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 9:50AM GW2waiting said

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@(Unverified)

"Whats so private" as you have so eloquently asked, is that it is MY information and I will give it out as I see fit. My point is that Steam's collection of any information without permission is wrong and a breach of privacy... I'll repeat myself for those hard of hearing "....with collection occurring without notifying the user or offering an opt-out".

Evil exists because good men do nothing. "When they took my neighbours privacy I did nothing because who cares, it doesn't affect me; when they took my friends privacy I did nothing because who cares, it doesn't affect me; when they took my privacy, it was too late and no one else cared."
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 9:55AM Amusednow said

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@GW2waiting Oh crap Valve/Steam knows I have photoshop, winzip, wings3d, artrage, winamp, itunes, kindle, chrome, opera, safari, vlc, audacity, filezilla, dvd shrink, virtualbox installed it's the end of the world run!

Oh wait now so does anyone else. And oh shit they collect metric data on people, much like every other industry segment throughout history.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 10:19AM GW2waiting said

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Good one @Amusednow

Can't think of an intelligent counter argument, so just spew bile and disparage a post.

But think about it, why should they know that? By what right do they have to collect what you think to be innocuous information about what's on our private hardware 'without' our permission.

You obviously don't care about it, but some of us do.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 11:26AM Pingles said

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@GW2waiting

No service is free. If you are not paying money for something then you are paying in personal information.

Facebook, Twitter, etc.

It's the current way of doing business. If you have decided to fight it then I wish you luck. Much the way small business owners fight warehouse stores. A valiant battle, sir. My respect to you. But a battle I will not be joining you in.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 12:35PM GW2waiting said

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@Pingles

Thank you, I'll keep fighting, somebody has to. I'll be thinking of you, and the other fallen masses, as I stand alone but valiant atop the growing mound of brain-dead consumers, as I chop away at the hands of the greedy corporations, hungry for my identity...

BTW I don’t have accounts for any of the social sites mentioned, or any others, either; plus I don’t use free email accounts. For a person in their 20's this is rare I know. I just don’t like or want my personal information "out there" for the world to see, and frankly I don’t understand the desire of people to do so. If I want to talk to a friend and tell them what I'm doing, I'll ring them; and I certainly don't want to know, or care, what my friends happen to have had for breakfast that day....

Peace all.....
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 2:59PM Calyptic001 said

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@GW2waiting your very paranoid, steam is a cheap and easy service.

FACT: whether you have the case and dvd or not you still only own that, the game is still not yours. So you pay cash for more plastic and a dvd with something you don't own. All I know is I love the fact my games are in one area.
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Posted: Nov 25th 2011 6:00AM (Unverified) said

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@Calyptic001

and can be easily re-downloaded should I loose the disk or the god damn code that came with the game that allows me to install it and use it -_-
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Posted: Nov 25th 2011 6:12AM (Unverified) said

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@GW2waiting : As someone who got screwed AGAIN a few days ago, because my internet was down, I wanted to play a single-player game, and Steam wouldn't let me, you've got my support for anything bad you say about them.

Lesson #1 about buying from Steam: don't even bother letting it install the game after you buy it, just go to the pirate bay and download a warezed copy, at least you know it will work and keep on working.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 9:13AM ReijMan said

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I play a pc game, very much a virtual item. I'm with Beau Hindman on this. Bought all the expansions and lifetime sub for LOTRO.
I'd say thats about €300. Would have paid more for the amount of entertainment I got out of it. (pssst, don't tell them!)

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 9:16AM (Unverified) said

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0 dollars. Companies are being incredibly greedy about this. Think about it, you spend 50 bucks on an expansion or game that comes with dozens and dozens of whatever your about to spend 10 bucks on. Screw that.

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 9:25AM Karth said

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I have bought PLEX on EVE and that have been... twice. Arround 60$. Then never again, just the subscription.
I think that as you grow up and money stops flowing to you (specially in this economic crisis) you realize that buying anything extra in a MMO its foolish, and if you cant do it inside the game, then putting more money isnt gonna help.
In the end I am more happy that way and got plenty more options

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 9:31AM DarkWalker said

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Depends.

If it's a game without subscription, and I really like it, I will earmark up to $15 monthly (depending on how much I play and like it) to spend on the game, and then go looking for things to purchase. But, for reference, if the game indulges in pay to win, I automatically dislike it.

If it's a game with a subscription, but at less than $15, I might purchase things from time to time. Mostly account-wide items, though; I don't like the idea of basically losing access to the item if I sideline the character. BTW, for my purposes, discounted plans do count, even if the normal subscription is $15, and this is above any "free" stipend from subscribing.

In both cases, I might spend a bigger chunk of money on something that I really like and is account wide, but then I would reduce my spending in the following months.

If the game charges $15 per month and does too small discounts for subscribing for multiple months at a time, though, I won't spend any more money on it, and will actually leave the game if there's anything I deem essential being offered for real money.


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