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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:11AM smartstep said

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0 $

Hate cash shops. Flat rate and no cash shop or eventually buy content (zones, expansions ,etc - no items, buffs, etc) might work as well.

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:49AM BGExorcist said

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@smartstep

0 aswell.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 10:46AM Macabre 13 said

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@Bladerunner83

I'm not a huge fan of cash shops either, but this...

"At least with a subscription your paying for a service."

...is this most asinine argument I hear when it comes to this debate. They're just different business models; i.e. different ways to generate revenue. With either model, you're paying for the *exact same thing*.

The problem with cash shops is not that it's some inherently "evil" or "bad" business model. It's just that, I believe, most companies simply don't do it "right." By this I mean, companies have to make sure the cash shop does not feel exploitative, which the vast majority get wrong.

I've played tons of F2P games, and Riot's League of Legends is the only game I've encountered so far that implemented the model to virtual perfection.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 12:39PM Barri said

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@Macabre 13

Ya Riot's a smart company need more of those around.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 4:26PM EndDream said

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@Bladerunner83 This is not a defense of F2P but just an observation.

Virtual Items are worthless? This is simply incorrect. If people are willing to spend money on something then by definition it is not worthless. Much of our financial markets would be considered worthless under your assumptions.
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Posted: Nov 29th 2011 12:52PM LazyLemming said

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@Macabre 13 Other than the fact they think $9 is a fair price for model recoloring.

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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:15AM Protheus said

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In the days that I played Wow I bought the Panda pet from the store - it was for charity I think (not sure anymore) and it costed me I approx 10 EURO... that was only a one time thing.

When I pay for a subscription to a game I'm not planning on buying anything from a cash shop.

I think it is just like gambling - once you start you on that other thing, and then you want that mount, then that pet etc etc...

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:17AM Calen said

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I've bought skins and champions in LOL.
I've bought expansion/adventure packs for DDO/LOTRO.
I've bought skins/cosmetic stuff for most of the superhero MMOs.
I've bought pets in WoW, Aion.
I've bought costumes and bagspace in Guildwars.
I've bought bagspace in Allods..

And the list goes on. It's mostly been cosmetic stuff, and bagspace, cause well... I play the AH. Gotta have the bagspace.

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:19AM Calen said

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@Calen As for how much? I don't know. I think around 10 - 25 Euro is fair for most things but it depends on WHAT we're buying. Now then, I wouldn't buy a damn pay-to-win item like a probe or whatever for 1000 Euro.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:21AM EventVox said

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An item, assuming any item from a cash shop is cosmetic, I wouldn't spend any money. If I have to spend money to say get a mount or things of that nature, I won't even play the game.

A service on the other hand (server transfer, account merge, etc) it would take a few pro and con lists for me to decide if the price was fair for the service being provided.

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:28AM deejrandom said

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I use to spend money wildly in Second Life. But I worked for that money so... I think 1000 Lindens equaled about 4 bucks. I know I've spent 4000 lindens on different items before. So that would be 16 bucks? About. However I rarely ever put money in to the game, though I did buy 20 bucks worth of lindens once.

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:34AM Bramen said

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$14.99 per month.

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:37AM (Unverified) said

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The worst cash shop by far has to be Atlantica Online, where the money you spend for an item only gives you a random chance to actually obtain the item you're spending money on.

Those boxes aren't cheap either as the chance to obtain a mount from a box typically start at $10 a pop with a very low odds to acquire.

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 3:28PM (Unverified) said

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@(Unverified) many games have this. this is what make cash shops bad. its a huge crash grab
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:38AM Deadalon said

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Bought gold in WOW and WAR on my main account with not so much as a warning. I dont think BLizzard will ever dare to touch my account now since it has an annual pass and they will be loosing large sums of money banning me.

Not that I would be sad loosing the account - cause it would finally make sure I never returned to WOW.

Posted: Nov 24th 2011 10:47AM Bramen said

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@Deadalon Large sums of money is relevant to the pile of money one already has. One account ban for buying gold is worth keeping the two accounts that leave because there are so many bots/gold buyers in the game.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 12:02PM Misterlee said

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@Deadalon

"large sums of money" lol.
You think $14 a month is large compared to the rest of the 10+ MILLION they are raking in on subs alone, without counting other services such as transfers, cash shop purchases and all the merchandise?
I love the arrogance of MMO players who think the world revolves around their tiny contribution.
I really hope your account name is the same as your forum name so we can see how much they 'dare'.
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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 4:55PM Deadalon said

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Like I said - done it often and never had bans. I was actually thinking of letting them know so I dont have to pay for a whole year sub in WOW cause of the Annual pass. The game is gonna get so boring over the next 10 months of nothingness.
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Posted: Nov 25th 2011 1:48AM Bramen said

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@Deadalon
You know... there are other ways of quitting besides cheating and getting a ban. You could, I dunno, quit.

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Posted: Nov 24th 2011 8:42AM (Unverified) said

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I bought a $30 Lowe (can't do umlauts) in World of Tanks.

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