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Posted: Nov 21st 2011 9:38AM alimantando said

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I know, it seems strange that Luke and Anakin share the same surname.
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Posted: Nov 21st 2011 1:17PM (Unverified) said

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@alimantando Luke and Anakin were on the same faction. When Anakin switched faction he got a free name change
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Posted: Nov 21st 2011 4:30PM Celtar said

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Heh! Good point. Plus one for pointing that out!

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Posted: Nov 21st 2011 8:33AM vtravi said

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I love the system. This way you can tell if the person you are playing with is the alt of someone you know. And you gain points amoung all your toons. Sounds great.

Posted: Nov 21st 2011 4:31PM Celtar said

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@vtravi

But you can't tell if they turn off that option. Or did you miss that point? The whole thing is a bad implimentation.

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Posted: Nov 21st 2011 8:39AM SkuzBukit said

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The "global" name system used by CoH was a better implementation of a "family tree".

Surnames that are displayed should be able to be set individually per character for RP & other reasons, but there should also be the utility to add another account to your family, to allow real-life family/friends to share a family tree.

After all, in my immediate family there are several surnames as my sisters all married & took their husband's surnames & I changed mine by deed poll, but we are still very much a family.

Posted: Nov 21st 2011 8:40AM DarkWalker said

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Not sure I really like the system. It means that, for example, a real father and son (or a pair of RPers interpreting family members) can't have their characters share last name.

It is also purely cosmetic, and (apparently) optional. It should have no impact in-game.

I'm not really against it, but I do see it as a wasted opportunity. It's just a tweaked copy of LotRO's surname mechanism, with a couple more restrictions, and without the whole family tree building LotRO allows.

I would prefer it done as in most of those games with either a single world or that allows characters to freely change servers: a unique name game-wide, that allows (or, in some cases, enforce) surnames, but don't restrict them. Less restrictions, and the fact names are unique game-wide actually means anything cross-server is that much easier, since the game is guaranteed to never have name clashes.

Posted: Nov 21st 2011 8:42AM Alph said

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I think it's great. Now if people want to be jerks they can't go hide on and alt (or main?) unless they get a second account.

Posted: Nov 21st 2011 9:14AM real65rcncom said

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@Alph

exactly.

The names give a connection to each other so it SHOULD make those more likely to anonymously log into alts to troll someone hesitant when they know their names will be traced back to their account.

Too much of that stuff goes on and there really isn't anything people can do. This way, if you see John "Jones" saying something crass and then later you see Jenny "Jones" saying the same nonsense, you know it's the same idiot and can ignore /blist all "Jones" characters you run across.
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Posted: Nov 21st 2011 4:34PM Celtar said

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@real65rcncom

Since my various character won't be related to each other and I refuse to have them all share the same Surname, the option I will select is "off" which means you won't be able to tell if it if my main or alt.

Why is it that some of you are missing that point when your defense of the system is that "You'll be able to tell if someone is really the same person playing an alt"? You will not be able to tell that if they opt out of it.

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Posted: Nov 21st 2011 8:45AM nevin said

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Generally in favour. Don't like same surname cross faction but otherwise I am for it. Saying that, when it's optional in games I play (like WAR), I don't take advantage of it.

Posted: Nov 21st 2011 8:47AM Cyclone Jack said

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Systems like this always feel like they developer never really thought anything through and how it might possibly affect the community. If the plan is to use this surname as a global, there are better, less intrusive ways of doing so, see: City of Heroes.

Posted: Nov 21st 2011 10:20AM OutThere said

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@Cyclone Jack

Yes, pretty much. But it's a given that any and every system developed has unintended consequences. People are way, way too creative and clever to just go vanilla. Rift is a perfect example of how the devs imagined things working one way and found that with real people it worked an entirely different way and simply rewrote the game for it to work the way people were actually playing. But that shouldn't stop devs from trying things.
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Posted: Nov 21st 2011 8:53AM Malagarr said

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This is the first thing I can honestly say I'm disappointed about with TOR. I do see a solution, though:

They can keep the legacy system in (That is, Character name and on the second line beneath it "Of the xxx Legacy" or whatever). But add in the option to put a space and a second capital letter into our names. Or, better yet, give us a normal first name and surname and have the Legacy system be an add on to it.

My Sith Pureblood Juggernaut is not going to share the same surname as my Twi'lek Jedi Knight.

Posted: Nov 21st 2011 8:54AM smartstep said

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I don't ind this system. It is ok

Posted: Nov 21st 2011 8:57AM (Unverified) said

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Its ok I guess, but this means I have to think up two cool names. Thinking up one name is hard enough, but two!?

It also means a rush to the end of the 1st chapter for those who want to bag the "best" legacy names, and a lot of annoyance finding alternate names for those who do not rush.

Still, I think the idea is quite a neat way of letting people know who your alts are, very role-playing like.

Posted: Nov 21st 2011 9:10AM real65rcncom said

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I like the idea.

Many times you see people on chat shouting nonsense, and later you see the same person on an alt. How do you know it's the same person? Usually they are saying the same stupid things but just log onto an alt to do it "unverified" like.

This way, it's nice there will be some accountability so that if you see a troll you know it's the same troll account instead of someone pretending to be someone else.

Posted: Nov 21st 2011 6:19PM hansh0tfirst said

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@real65rcncom

What difference does it make if it's the same person shouting nonsense or two different people shouting nonsense?

In either case, if it's offensive they should be reported and/or ignored. Am I missing something here? Is there some sort of personal gratification in identifying a troll's alt I'm not appreciating?
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Posted: Nov 21st 2011 9:11AM xero13 said

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Ohnoes theres no way that race can be my brother/father/uncle hes another race!

What happened to the RPG in MMORPG.

Ever heard of adoptions?

Maybe in some customs your best buddy friend and yourself chose a special name to recognize you as 'brothers' (like blood brothers).

Maybe you were in an orphanage together and chose a random name for your 'brothers' that lived there with you when young.

Just because you're given a carrot doesn't mean it cant be an orange spaceship.

Posted: Nov 21st 2011 9:44AM Malagarr said

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@xero13

I think you answered your own question. What happened to the RPG part?

What you're suggesting is that role-players adopt excuses for why every one of their characters shares the same surname. Two characters of different races? Maybe. I used the surname Battlecry for my barbarian warrior in EQ as well as my dwarven cleric, rp'ing that my barbarian was raised by the dwarves. But now I'm being told that my Twi'Lek Jedi Knight, my Pureblood Sith Juggernaut, my Miralukan Jedi Shadow, my Human Sith Assassin, my Zabrak Republic Commando, my Cyborg Mercenary, my Marilian Gunslinger and my Chiss Sniper all share ths same surname?

You gotta admit, that's quite a stretch.
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